TBF only one guy has said BJB should never play again which I agree is unnecessary. Personally I've stuck to what I said in pre-season, Hardaker is better at FB and I think Briscoe and Hall are stronger wingers. Now that he's going we should look at possibly Handley and Walters for games against London/Bradford/Wakey if we're going to rest somebody as they'll be needed next year. If we need someone to come in against tougher opposition I'd still pick BJB.

Given that metres made by our back 3 is a huge part of our game and an area we better probably all other teams in then to pick BJB over Briscoe for this particular opponent who are so defensively strong and physical seemed wrong as Briscoe is much stronger getting metres and carrying the ball and being tougher to put down. With a home game vs Hull next week the rotation should've happened there, not vs our nearest rivals.

Your U19's would probably get the job done.
Seriously we've got so far backwards in the last 5 weeks that it should be a fairly straightforward win.
When you compare the 3/4 lines the difference in quality is laughable.



Still miracles happen occasionally right?

Passenger who continues to be carried, but I have an agenda apparently.

BJB is and always was a very good player. Briscoe is much better. BJBs departure doesn't change those facts.

Very poor stats. I didn't notice him first half, so he was either not on the pitch or was truely AWOL

It was all a bit tasty in the first half, so I don't think we has brought on until the second half. Not for that reason though............ honest.

When the going gets tough Kirke normally gets knocked out cold.

Kirke and Bailey ,waste of space,get rid soon as
BJB deserves to be in and around the squad until his departure
Stevie Ward has a great future but he desperatley needs bulking up in the next pre-season
Looking forward to the return of Aiton,liked what I saw of him,Chris Clarkson is certainly not the answer to things

In terms of Bjb I'd definitely keep him around until he departs & possibly play him at FB in the CC game then maybe v Wakey & London but other than that I'd keep the backs together as much as possible.

I'm not sure I'm going to be able to buy my tickets here so just wondered if you can pay on the gates in the away end ? Thanks

yes no problem

I wouldn't worry about your team, this will your easiest game for a while, depressingly I'd be happy with anything less than a 20 point defeat.

In the Wigan game Hall made 8.08m per carry, Bish made 7.73m per carry and Hardaker 7.5m per carry. He also put himself in a great support position in centre field which could well have won the match for us had McGuire passed to him.

For the season Briscoe averages 10.17m per carry (1st place), Bish 9.84 (2nd place) and Hardaker 8.39 (6th place) and Hall 8.08m (8th place). BJB also has the best trys per match average. So I do not think BJB is letting the side down and is a great asset to the side. The back three should be continued to be selected on form.

Some of this stats should be taken with a pinch of salt as most appearances came against lower sides. Better tries per match would be expected really.

I seem to recall Kirke only came on after half time and made 4 more tackles than Singleton and one less carry. I also seem to recall he put in some solid defence around the ruck. Without knowing the minutes played it is difficult to compare with accuracy.

With Leeds playing a sort of mob handed blitz defence we have to expect that we will have quite a few missed tackles which is not a problem providing the rest of the gang stop the opposition. What is more a worry is a one on one miss like Ablett made for Green to score.

The other players also had chance to make hay against those lower sides so only a very small pinch of salt. You have to say Bish has done a good job when given the opportunity. In the Wigan game he did not have the advantage of Watkins insided him like Briscoe has enjoyed so even less salt I would say

And they did, their try per game ratio suffers from playing against the likes of Saints and Hudds which BJB didn't, also from missing out on one or two of the weaker teams to make way for BJB to get a game. I'm sure Hall (vs Widnes) and Briscoe (vs London) would've made hay if they played those games.

No he didn't get to have Watkins at centre, but neither has Briscoe on a few occasions due to being moved over to the left to accommodate BJB. Briscoe has scored in 6 of his 11 league appearances, 2 of the 5 games he didn't score in came when he was over on the left. In those games BJB grabbed 2 tries both times playing outside Watkins and the ones vs Cas were laid on a plate that any of our wingers would've finished.

www1.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... th-hull-fc Nice to see Sa back in the game and in line to play on Friday. Good player and a bit mental.

www1.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... th-hull-fc Nice to see Sa back in the game and in line to play on Friday. Good player and a bit mental.

Something not nice to see......James Child is the ref for Friday.

Famous last words, I know, but for me Child has looked a much much better referee this year. Hope he continues that way.

Miles better than Hicks, and better than Bentham for me.

I have no problem with Briscoe who I rate very highly. It is just that I am worlds apart from 'Worlds Apart. and am putting BJB's case who has done OK and just deserved his spot on form for the last match IMO. I think we should use him while we have him but only based on form. If one of the other back three needs a rest or their form drops Bish should come in.

19 man squad named as:

1 Zak Hardaker
2 Ben Jones-Bishop
3 Kallum Watkins
4 Joel Moon
5 Ryan Hall
6 Danny McGuire
8 Kylie Leuluai
12 Carl Ablett
13 Kevin Sinfield (c)
14 Stevie Ward
15 Brett Delaney
16 Ryan Bailey
17 Ian Kirke
18 Chris Clarkson
19 Mitch Achurch
20 Tom Briscoe
21 Liam Sutcliffe
23 Brad Singleton
29 Robbie Ward

Peacock got a leg injury apparently

From that I'd go with:

1. Hardaker
2. Briscoe
3. Watkins
4. Moon
5. Hall
6. Sinfield
7. McGuire
8. Leuluai
9. Ward, R
10. Singleton
11. Ablett
12. Delaney
13. Ward

14. Sutcliffe
15. Achurch
16. Bailey
17. Kirke

Would go with what Him put, but really think the club are making a mistake this week and should have introduced at least one other youngster. Mulhern for Kirke would not have damaged us in anyway and been a risk.

Why should they? The club will pick players they believe are ready for the step up, let's not rush them into the first team just for the sake of it.

You have to remember it can have a negative impact on the player too. (See George Elliot)

Also Kirke tends to start for JP when JP is injured. For all that people complain, when he gets decent minutes he's not a bad prop (see Wigan Cup semi 2012, Catalans away playoff 2012 etc).

Would go with:

1. Hardaker
20. Briscoe
3. Watkins
4. Moon
5. Hall
21. Sutcliffe
6. McGuire
8. Leuluai
13. Sinfield
17. Kirke
19. Achurch
12. Ablett
15. Delaney

14. Ward S
16. Bailey
23. Singleton
28. Ward R

You could play your cheerleaders and still beat us