The Radford clip shows Radford swinging at (and mostly missing) a prone player who is in no position to defend himself. Radford may be 'hard' but as a puncher he's shocking and if you used that clip alone as evidence, a coward to boot.

I'm not trying to paint a picture like that at all. And yes he has, a lot of your players have. Ian Kirke for example

A lot of that is down to the true greats you had/have rather than him being a main factor. But fair is fair, he's won a hell of a lot. Like Karl Pryce for us. Could have been so much more.

What I said was he could have been one of the best. How many caps did he get? If he got his head down and focused on being the hard running prop forward instead of all the off field stuff and the on field crap then he could have been a world beater. Playing for England every year and could have been giving it to the Aussies with Peacock. The same could be said for Hock. Although Bailey was lucky to have a quality side around him for such a long time. Even Leeds fans must see that he could have been better?

It just shows with his recent sacking that he's an idiot. And as I said before I hope the rumors of him coming to us are not true.

He was never man of the match in a final but he never let anyone down either and we would not have got to the 2012 final without his exceptional performance against Catalan in the playoffs.

He probably could have been better but so could a lot of players and I don't think he ever had the potential to be as good as Peacock or Morely or Graham so don't think he would have got too many more caps anyway.

Apart from the Julian O'Neill one at Widnes one year has anyone ever seen Bailey win a fight??? I think I saw every game he played for Leeds and I always thought he was soft but as others have said he was very effective at putting opponents off their game and he never let Leeds down.

Radford would have ate Bailey for breakfast and the numbnuts knows it.

Probably but Bailey and Leeds would still have walked away with the W so would Bailey have cared.

He was there to put people off their game and he did it regularly.

Agreed. I fancied us doing you that game until the red.

No-one's argued otherwise. However, the fact remains that Radford had an entire career to eat Bailey for breakfast and failed to do so, not least during the incident in question. Which, incidentally, still appears to be giving certain FC fans numb nuts.

there have been lots of players who have been regarded as characters throughout the history of the club and these players are remembered and talked about as much as the stars of the club. Bailey is one of those players .A character that will be remembered and talked about

signed for Workington on a pay as you play deal apparently . I wonder how much he is getting paid ?

I wonder how long he'll last there? It's a long drive up to Workington for training.

I'll bet £10 to charidee he doesn't last 10 games.

yeah about 10 games I would think

Classic Bailey. forums.redvee.net/showthread.php ... and-Bailey More than a decade on and still they're talking about him (no mention of the four Grand Finals he beat them in though )

Classic Bailey. forums.redvee.net/showthread.php ... and-Bailey More than a decade on and still they're talking about him (no mention of the four Grand Finals he beat them in though )

The video of the Scilly punch really shows how rose tinted memories could be.

If you listened to the fans it was a massive knockout punch. Whilst there were some decent punches, bailey was still on his feet after three unanswered efforts.

It's much like the Dulls fan saying for years that Brian Mac floored three Leeds players in one of the Hudds semis of the 90s.

Having watched several old Leeds/Saints games I can say that if they want to talk about Bailey I can raise them a Stankevitch. Biggest $h!thouse cheap shot merchant in SL.

Wither Sonny Nickle?
Bailey was a WUM, which was in part his function as it just drove opposition players to distraction and generated penalties for Leeds. Not a glorious role, but one he was effective in.
Nickle was just downright dirty, as the remains of Robbie Mears' jaw will attest.

I would have thought that was a period of their history they would rather not talk about . E en Wire fans change the subject quickly when a certain incident in one of their rare Grand finals

Fozzard and his Tampon arm too.

Other than Julian O'Neill at Widnes did anyone ever see Bsiley win a fight??? He was biggest wind up merchant going tho.

Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"The Radford clip shows Radford swinging at (and mostly missing) a prone player who is in no position to defend himself. Radford may be 'hard' but as a puncher he's shocking and if you used that clip alone as evidence, a coward to boot.'" Bailey suffered nothing more than a very heavy cold due to the fresh air shots that Radford threw Proper hard men don't miss connecting with the first 4 punches that they throw in a dust up! It is funny though how so many fans memories get clouded over the years about what actually happened and this incident regularly get brought up and also get's exaggerated. So to refresh everyone memories https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ6Thyg2rFM Judge for yourselves

Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"The Radford clip shows Radford swinging at (and mostly missing) a prone player who is in no position to defend himself. Radford may be 'hard' but as a puncher he's shocking and if you used that clip alone as evidence, a coward to boot.'" Bailey suffered nothing more than a very heavy cold due to the fresh air shots that Radford threw Proper hard men don't miss connecting with the first 4 punches that they throw in a dust up! It is funny though how so many fans memories get clouded over the years about what actually happened and this incident regularly get brought up and also get's exaggerated. So to refresh everyone memories https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ6Thyg2rFM Judge for yourselves

Quote ="The Biffs Back"Bailey suffered nothing more than a very heavy cold due to the fresh air shots that Radford threw Proper hard men don't miss connecting with the first 4 punches that they throw in a dust up! It is funny though how so many fans memories get clouded over the years about what actually happened and this incident regularly get brought up and also get's exaggerated. So to refresh everyone memories https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ6Thyg2rFM Judge for yourselves'" Hahaha. It's like watching WWE. I hope Radford doesn't retell that story whilst he's down the pub

Quote ="The Biffs Back"Bailey suffered nothing more than a very heavy cold due to the fresh air shots that Radford threw Proper hard men don't miss connecting with the first 4 punches that they throw in a dust up! It is funny though how so many fans memories get clouded over the years about what actually happened and this incident regularly get brought up and also get's exaggerated. So to refresh everyone memories https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ6Thyg2rFM Judge for yourselves'" Hahaha. It's like watching WWE. I hope Radford doesn't retell that story whilst he's down the pub

Bedsy just escorts a clearly frustrated Radford out of the way. Nothing to see here, not a dust up if only one side is throwing air shots...

I just watched the 1973 Australia Grand Final between Cronulla and Manly. There was more "biff" in the first 5 minutes of that match than the entire 20 odd years of Super League. I have no idea what skulls were made of back in the 70's but it definitely was not what they are made from now. Mal Reilly didn't last long (he was hit off the ball and retired with a hip injury after about 20 minutes) but whoever he "tackled" stayed tackled for some considerable time. They don't make players like Cliff Watson anymore. Took the ball up relentlessly no matter how many times he got punched in the face, stamped on or gouged.
Graham Eadie and Bobby Fulton were awesome players though.

One thing you notice, the hooker was there to hook the ball. He didn't play dummy half. There was no fixed dummy half (and I've found a few old NRL games now).