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| Quote ="Gandy"icon_thumb.gif
I think exactly the same, sacking Macca will do nothing and people who say Keane, Boothroyd, Pardew and Curbishley are the answer then I'm just glad that Ken Bates doesn't take our fans too seriously and do whatever we demand or we'd be really in the t!'"
What's the answer then?
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| Quote ="Forumjacker"What's the answer then?'"
Macca deserves at least until the end of the season and see what he does in the pre season. I'll admit if he doesn't take us up this season we should look for someone else.
Don't want to see someone come in now, disrupt us even more and bring there own players and starting all over again. Think Ken knows this too thats why he is backing him in the papers and the media so publicly and saying how Gary's going to spend money in the transfer window
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| Sacking McAllister will not guaruntee we get any better. Anyone coming in has 2 weeks in which to assess the squad, and look for new targets until the transfer window opens.
leeds have problem areas in the team. McAllister knows about them, but he can only do so much with the players. McAllister should be given the chance to turn it around after the new players have come in.
If results don't improve then, questions need to be asked. Bates went for a cheap option in McAllister, and it may pay off, howveer, if we don't get out of this division this season, it could mark the start of a frustrating time for the club
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| It's started -
Bates declined to comment when contacted by the YEP yesterday, indicating that his faith in United's boss remained unchanged.
[urlhttp://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/leedsunited/Leeds-United-I39ll-carry-on.4792383.jp[/url
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| the problem is macca stays, we don't go up and becchio,beckford and the rest of the better players leave.don't go up this year and we are in big trouble
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| I think we need to do away with this thread it shames me to know that Leeds have the greatest rugby team and such a misfit football team!! BIN IT!!
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| didn't say that 6 years ago when roles were reversed
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| Quote ="Forumjacker"What's the answer then?'"
Give macca time to short the defence out.
There is no qucik fix for leeds.
So let's not pretend there is by sacking a decent young manager at the first sign of trouble.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"the problem is macca stays, we don't go up and becchio,beckford and the rest of the better players leave.don't go up this year and we are in big trouble'"
That's been said EVERY season since we first went down from the premiership.
Leeds may have fallen but they are a prestigious club and will always attract the top range players for these dvisions.
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| Quote ="Snake Eater"Give macca time to short the defence out.
There is no qucik fix for leeds.
So let's not pretend there is by sacking a decent young manager at the first sign of trouble.'"
the defence has been a shambles all season,how long does it take to sort it out
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| Quote ="Snake Eater"That's been said EVERY season since we first went down from the premiership.
Leeds may have fallen but they are a prestigious club and will always attract the top range players for these dvisions.'"
if thats the case we are in an even bigger mess than i first thought.all those top range players we have and we are nowhere near the play offs
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| Quote ="tad rhino"the defence has been a shambles all season,how long does it take to sort it out'"
He needs to sign one or two new players.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"if thats the case we are in an even bigger mess than i first thought.all those top range players we have and we are nowhere near the play offs'"
I wouldn't say nowhere near when we are just 4 points off.
Since we went down from the premiership we've made 2 playoff finals.
We haven't been able to finish in the top 2 because we've had no stability for years.
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| Quote ="Snake Eater"Give macca time to short the defence out.'"
He's got til the end of the season.
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| Quote ="Forumjacker"He's got til the end of the season.'"
agree i wouldn't think bates would get shut until then. isn't macca's "rolling" contract up at the end of the season?
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| Quote ="totalloiner"agree i wouldn't think bates would get shut until then. isn't macca's "rolling" contract up at the end of the season?'"
Yes it is!
Every man and his dog knows its the defence thats needs sorting. He should just use all the money he is allowed in the transfer window on the defence. Where scoring every game and the last few weeks team have had to come from behind to beat us. Think aklot of it is that we aren't finishing teams off. If we had gone 2-0 up against some of these teams we'd have won these games
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| Quote ="Forumjacker"He's got til the end of the season.'"
I'd agree there FJ.
The thing that worries me more though is if he fails to get promotion we also lose beckford,becchio and delph maybe more
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| Quote ="Gandy"Yes it is!
Every man and his dog knows its the defence thats needs sorting. He should just use all the money he is allowed in the transfer window on the defence. Where scoring every game and the last few weeks team have had to come from behind to beat us. Think aklot of it is that we aren't finishing teams off. If we had gone 2-0 up against some of these teams we'd have won these games'"
well they've made £4.5m so he should be able to get a quality central defender in and a left-back, i admire macca for trying to get the team to get it down and pass it, but other teams play route one and our defence flaps like headless chickens, they are going through a bad spell i just hope they start winning again soon mk dons and leicster our next 2 games need to get something from them (6 points!!).
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| Quote ="totalloiner"well they've made £4.5m so he should be able to get a quality central defender in and a left-back, i admire macca for trying to get the team to get it down and pass it, but other teams play route one and our defence flaps like headless chickens, they are going through a bad spell i just hope they start winning again soon mk dons and leicster our next 2 games need to get something from them (6 points!!).'"
Think we will win these matches. Maybe teams will start taking us as a bit of a soft touch now. It's not just Macca under pressure now its the players too and Macca should be getting them fired up as these 2 games could change our season!
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| Homer Simpson wrote: We have been sorting our defence out all season, how much longer is it going to take. You only have to look at Keane, Ince, Boothroyd and all others out of a job this season. Did I say Ince, - Crystal Balls come in handy sometimes
Quote ="Gandy"Keane, Ince and Boothroyd are no better than Macca. And Ince is still in a job'"
I said it first (sunday 7th) Ince would go - Well now he has been sacked
[urlhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/b/blackburn_rovers/7784967.stm[/url
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| Quote ="Homer Simpson"Homer Simpson wrote: We have been sorting our defence out all season, how much longer is it going to take. You only have to look at Keane, Ince, Boothroyd and all others out of a job this season. Did I say Ince, - Crystal Balls come in handy sometimes
I said it first (sunday 7th) Ince would go - Well now he has been sacked
[urlhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/b/blackburn_rovers/7784967.stm[/url'"
you would hardly have to be Mystic Meg to work that one out
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| Quote ="totalloiner"isn't macca's "rolling" contract up at the end of the season?'"
If it's a rolling contract isn't there always 12 months on it at any point ?
Contracts are worth f*ck all now anyway for both clubs and players/managers alike, he gave Blackwell a 3 year one in March and in the September/October of the same year he got rid of him so that won't stop Bates sacking Gary Mac if he feels that is what is best for the club.
Personally I think he'll come good and we'll go up automatically this season and I know deep down that Tad feels the same.
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