I think the award became further meaningless last year when they gave it to Hodgson who is the least deserving "man of steel" I can recall in years.

and barrett before him

Roby you mean

You can't vote for a player from your own club, so as to avoid club bias.

Players are professional enough that they know who has been the best player they've come up against, the huge majority aren't going to just vote for who their friends are.

Surely having every player vote is better than a panel of journalists decide.



Absolutely, said pretty much the same a few days ago. The reason you have been so strong and at the top for so long was because you had a collective group of quality players, and very rarely relied on 1 person.

Still funny how the 'fulcrum argument' only appears to apply to the Leeds club though.

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The last time Leeds really relied on one person was in Iestyn Harris' days - and he won Man Of Steel.

The time before that was Garry Schofield - and he won Man Of Steel also.

For those who crave Man Of Steel recognition (for Leeds - I couldn't care less personally) perhaps that's the route to go down again?

indeed,got them the wrong way around. not easy with identical twins

How unsurprising you were the first to chomp down and gobble on the bait.

Now toddle on soldier, theres a good chap.

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I don't crave it and I don't go to bed crying that we haven't been recognised but it's still worthy of comment that it seems wrong that our lads haven't been recognised.

Deserved winner for me...he's been consistent over the season scored a sackfull of points and has been one of Wigans stand out players...plus neither of the Tomkins got the award which is an added bonus.
I also think that in 2004 and last year the gong could have gone to a Leeds player as we too had a standout season being top of the league and SL champions; for 2007 & 2008 Saints were the best team throughout the season but unfortunately for them came up short when they met us in the GF. (The scoreline in 2007 was a surprise to most people)

I think it lost all credibility when it was inexplicably given to Roby.

It's Kieron.

But anyway, they don't give it to players who crap themselves at the first sign of a Qantas jet arriving at Manchester.

Really? in 07 and 08 we finished 1 point behind them after the regular rounds. 2007 it came down to a Rob Burrow kick against Wigan which would have had us finish top (the only goal he missed that year I believe). In 08 we were a long way infront of them at halfway, but lost ground mid season. They started poorly, we had a poor middle patch, end result, not a lot in it. Head to head - even stevens apart from the cup.
I'm not bagging Saints, but some of our own supporters have failed to grasp that there has been nothing between these two sides for quite some time. 2007 a surprise? I think not. I've heard interviews with Saints players where they could sense how fired up Leeds were for that game and the the Leeds guys themsleves believed it completely. There was only ever going to be one result that night. In 2008? WTF? Why did everyone write us off for the final?

Agree with this.
After the 07 final we were talking to some Saints fans outside and they thought we'd had their card marked after the semi 10-8 defeat at KR.
As for the other 2 i personally thought we had as good a chance as they did but with the SKY muppets bleating you'd think we'd sneaked into OT by default.

What is your description of deserving? anyone who plays for Weeds regardless of how e they have been this season, maybe the Man of Steel should have gone to TMFMISL and his blanket

















4 in a row, ooops sorry

So is that another way of saying you think he should have won it too? or are you just trying to throw a smokescreen over some of the biased ridiculous comments from Whinos fans on this particular thread?

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Flyingprop, remind me when your team last got to a Grand Final.

Oo, oo, me, me, me, I know this one.

Care to share? Or do you want the Mighty Flyingprop to answer?

I think Flyingpoop might want to take this one - he seems so knowledgeable.

Agreed. I mean who would brag about an opposing team not winning 4 in a row when their team has won ... grand finals?

can flying prop go back 48 years?
does he remember Tommy Smales?

Flying prop repeatedly calling us Weeds or Whinos ..
Do I get a prize for correctly guessing he is Jonathon Ross ?

You mean Jonathan Woss surely?

At least while he's calling us Weeds or Whinos he's not taking the pi55 out of Istanbul.

Do I get a prize though ?