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| Quote ="bigbosshog"Leeds have been average this season, we are second which is a top result however we are just not putting it together.
Anyone who can take any positives out of the game tonight is a true believist, Bradford are an average side who we made look good.
We are short of a centre Watkins is good but he is just getting beaten up and gibson will never make it IMHO.
We do not look like a team with a plan and Bluey can talk all the platitudes he wants, we are not putting it together.
We look unstructured and vulnerable Worincey who is average cut us apart and Ablett was clearly in schoolboy land, you lot can make all the excuses you want but someone at HQ needs to sort the team out as they look clueless and rudderless.
you will see I don't post often and no doubt I will get slagged off for that but i will tell you what we are crap at the moment and somebody up there needs to sort it out with some quality class players who will give our youngsters time to breathe.
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| Quote ="EmmaMur01"Money doesn't always talk, and ATEOTD there is still a salary cap and our pay structure.'"
Did in the case of Buderus!! We must have the Eastwood money available and we can offload others on one year contracts before his eventual arrival.
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| Quote ="ant1"Did in the case of Buderus!! We must have the Eastwood money available and we can offload others on one year contracts before his eventual arrival.'"
Off load others on one year contracts???? WTF
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| Quote ="EmmaMur01"I know it is only one match, but leeds looked well off it today.
Is it time for Gh to dip into his pocket for a centre? Do some players need a rest?
What would you do?'"
Rest Ryan Hall even though he tries his best every game it is clear he has been injured for a couple of weeks! I just hope it was a blip due to the fatigue ect.. to say we lost it was not by many only four points so not too much cause for alarm. Hopefully we can get back to winning ways on Monday.
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| Where do we go now...
The players need to have a long hard look at themselves - the players were down after last week and BM is supposed to by known for hit man management.
McGuires Kicking at times last night was pish poor
lowest amount of points to be scored against Bradford before last night was 10 - it was a pathetic attacking attempt
Luckily Sykes couldnt hit a bard door with the kicking otherwise the score line could have been much worse.
letting a forward dance through like something a bloke the size or burrow or Robey was utterly shocking.
the plus side is every team has a sticky patch so im not too bothered having ours now!
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| Anyone else think Watkins is looking very raw of late?
Would loved to of seen Gleeson bought in, was never going to happen soon as Wigan came wading in.
As people have said who is available? Know there is rumblings that were after David Simmons from Cronulla.
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| it baffled me last night why watkins started on the wing - was Gibson injured?
why not play one of the reserve wingers?
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| oh and we got beaten by a team playing 50 year old Aussie Forward at Stand Off
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| Quote ="Sarahgrhino"Rest Ryan Hall even though he tries his best every game it is clear he has been injured for a couple of weeks! I just hope it was a blip due to the fatigue ect.. to say we lost it was not by many only four points so not too much cause for alarm. Hopefully we can get back to winning ways on Monday.'"
You might be right ... Perhaps Monday's game might be the time to introduce Jodie Broughton to the first team ?
Broughton is Kallum Watkins natural wing partner when the reserves used to win things. They have an understanding together, which showed when the Academy beat a full-strength York side last year.
As for the Broughton has not experience complaint, wasn't it him that Hull went for last season to play first grade during their injury crisis ? Young, with pace to burn might just be the sort of player we need if we choose to stop battering sides up the middle and throw the ball about, playing a more expansive game.
In that way, you can rest Hall (who has heavy strapping on that thigh for the last two games) and maybe even drop Ablett or Senior ?
Anyone know if Broughton is fit / available ?
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| Quote ="Tony Ferrino"oh and we got beaten by a team playing 50 year old Aussie Forward at Stand Off'"
Menzies is still class act, you could tell that from watching NRL last season. And the way he has played for Bulls this season shows he still has it. More than can be said about our World Class Hooker, hope I get proved wrong though.
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| Quote ="vb1981"Menzies is still class act, you could tell that from watching NRL last season. And the way he has played for Bulls this season shows he still has it. More than can be said about our World Class Hooker, hope I get proved wrong though.'"
still showes how far behind Aussies we are when our current GB stand off gets outplayed by a forward!
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| Quote ="Tony Ferrino"still showes how far behind Aussies we are when our current GB stand off gets outplayed by a forward!'"
Should of said that last night, we would of been sure to see you getting thrown over the balcony
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| Quote ="vb1981"Should of said that last night, we would of been sure to see you getting thrown over the balcony
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Id gone by the time the players got in, the bar bill was a little too hight
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"Leeds got crucified tonight. But just like Jesus they’ll come to life in three days time. I love Easter.'"
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| Get a sense of perspective. You had a bruising game against SL's most successful team and current holders of the challenge cup, St Helens, lead by current man of steel, James Graham. A few days later you have to go to the ar$e end of the world and play a bradford side, playing for their careers in their cup final and only just lose. Added to the fact its only april.
There are only 2 guarantees in RL. One is that wigan will never get out of their current 10 year "transitional period", the other is that Leeds will contest the grand final.
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| Quote ="ant1"Offer Shenton a contract that he couldn,t refuse.'"
Being a Cas player means he's spent the last twenty-odd years of his life being indoctrinated that the big city team from the other side of the Calder make Al-Qaeda look like a Sunday School outing.
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| Quote ="Tony Ferrino"
the plus side is every team has a sticky patch so im not too bothered having ours now!'"
IIRC the Scousers couldn't win for toffee this time last season ...
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| Quote ="AdmiralHanson"IIRC the Scousers couldn't win for toffee this time last season ...'"
exactly, Trophies aint getting handed out in April!
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| Quote ="Hollywood Harrigan"You're on 1 at me tonight arent you
1. The try that was given.
2. The ball that JJB dropped with the line begging after Kirkes offload.
3. The forward pass to Hall where he went in in the corner.
4. The Webb offside from the PTB decision. If he hadnt interfered with play Senior was there to take it.
5. The JJB knock on where McGuire went in.
(ok, 5 then. I wasnt far off
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if cas wakey was the sky game we would all be chilled out with feet up.
bradford got the rub of the green last night!! it happens!! they were due a bit of luck. look at there injuries and defeats. we still have the best defence in the league.
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| St Helens lost 4 from 5, Leeds are currently on 4 from 7 but it's early days yet. Leeds lost 4 from 7 at one point last season and still ended the season as Champions.
Leeds have the seventh best attack in the league at the moment and it shows in the performances. One out boring rugby, with no hint of an offload or any second phase. There's no backing up anymore because there's nothing to back up anymore.
I only hope it's part of a wickedly devious plan because I keep hearing how great things are going in training and how the CEO believes Leeds have a squad capable of reaching their goals this season.
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| Quote ="EmmaMur01"I know it is only one match, but leeds looked well off it today.
Is it time for Gh to dip into his pocket for a centre? Do some players need a rest?
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We certainly need some flair out wide as the pack is unable to win games on its own. The loss of Ellis has impacted on the strength of the pack and the likes of JJB and Sinfield who although having decent seasons are not making the breaks they were.
I also feel we currently have a real lack of creativity coming from the halfbacks so far this season. I do feel we have a lot more to come from a lot of the squad but are short of where we were last season by a fair way.
The Eastwood decision certainly could not be forseen but I still have to question the perceived lack of effort to bring in a decent centre to replace Toopi as this has caused all sorts of trouble for us out wide........especially with us having to move Donald.
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| Quote ="Hollywood Harrigan"The NZ national team could have played tonight but if they attacked like that they would have lost too. McClennan tried to tire the Bulls out by using the forward as battering rams but his tactics didnt work. We showed we were the better team when the ball (very rarely) was thrown about and had we just executed better we would have scored 6 tries.'"
Agree. We have the players (except a right ) but it is the team plan that is wrong. Too much down the middle and Peacock style die with the ball will not win any cups. Go back to the attacking style with flair and we will be back up there.
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| I think we should crawl back under our stone..
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