Cheers. Does this mean that we are stuck with this nonsense forever?

For the immeadiate future I would imagine so yes. However, in the last couple of months there has been about 4 different methods of getting onto the station. None of which have proved all that effective. It won't be sorted until one of a couple of things happen.

1. The council manage to find some land in the city centre which can be used as a feeder rank. Obviously that one is unlikely.
2. The Hackney Carriage manage to get the airport rank back. Which again is unlikely.

So,after the most miserable bunch of men in Leeds finish their strike the second group of most miserable men ( bus drivers,First Leeds ) are about to start theirs.

Not all are miserable, "Rod Stewart" who does the 12/13 route for example or that short bald fella who merrily sings away full pelt at the front of his bus.

Legends.

ALL bus drivers are nob heads.

The idea of having them queue on Boar Lane, blocking off the right turn to go down under the Dark Arches for buses that use it, must have come from one of those infinite number of monkeys inbetween replicating works of Shakespeare.

The simple solution to hackney carraige overcrowding in Leeds is to reduce the number of licences available.

The only route I can think of that still has conductors is the number 4 bendy buses between Whinmoor and Pudsey.

If you mean stop issuing them I agree.

However, if you mean removing current licences, I disagree.

Do they look like Bob Grant?

Also, following the taxi thread drift....why can taxis use bus lanes?

Because they are a vehicle that is licenced by the local authority? Who knows?

I'd assumed bus lanes were there to give buses an advantage over cars that might encourage car users to switch to using the bus - cutting congestion and being greener.

I just don't see how allowing taxis this advantage does anything for the environment or reduces congestion.

Well they are technically public transport. But in most cases actually less green than a car.

Not sure when taxis were allowed into bus lanes, but its been a long time, and probably before most people / councils were so green concious.

Probably down to revenue etc

Household bin emptied every week. Blue paper bin once a month, brown garden refuse bin once a month.

And Emma, trams have conductors, we have them in Sheffield, along with a nice big fat Arena.

I would have thought they were there so the buses can at least attempt some proximity to their time table. If you want people to use them realibilty is pretty important

Yeah but the issue is over why taxis are allowed to use them. As Puig has said it doesnt help the environment or reduce congestion.

Until it changed fairly recently, First had given the number 4 service 61 minutes to get from Whinmoor to Pudsey, on a route where only about 100 yards of it is in bus lanes or on dual carriageways.

In morning rush hour traffic you'd be hard pushed to do that in your car, never mind having to stop every two minutes to let people on and off. Not surprisingly, the timetable was very rarely adhered to.

It's the reason bus timetables now say things like "..and at least every 10 minutes until..." on them, so they can't be accused of not keeping to timetable during peak times. It's an exercise in fiddling punctuality figures.

Hopefully the move to London-style franchising of bus services in West Yorkshire will force companies to address the way they treat their passengers.

Car sharing isn't it!

You drive down the road that's one person in the car you do it in a taxi theres two people in the car. Two people in the car means you are being green.

i hope your trying to be humourous

In theory, yes.

If the went on strike again, they would be protected from the sack for another 12 weeks. However, for the strike to be legal the union would need to sanction it, and they won't sanction a strike over something they have just agreed to.

Council wins.

Why not make it compulsory for every family to own at least one car (legally) and ban all public buses.

Yes, there would be an increase in vehicles on the road, but it would flow easier without fecking bus lanes and without buses clogging up traffic stopping to pick up peasants.

Seeing as my house collectively own 4 cars, do we get even more dispensation?

The more cars the better!

A perfect world is one with no buses

Edited for accuracy

And what would you do for someone that say, lives on their own and suffers from epilepsy and therefore is unable to drive a motor vehicle for obvious reasons ?

It was interesting to see where the bin men held most of their meetings about the strike .... Gone have the days of having a mass meeting in the Queens Hall (deceased) .... These days they're held in the Jongleurs Comedy Club !