I'd write McGuire off as captain for getting entangled in handbags at dawn when he should have been making a tackle on Sunday!

McGuire has his failings I can see that - pity some on here you included seem unable to see Sinfield's issues. It was a seriously dumb play defended if you must but no one in their right mind is going to put that play on in those circumstances.

McGuire and quite a few others would never have tried to run it from dummy half there. On the goalline, right on the sideline so both markers knew he could only go one way, the most likely result would've been forced back for a drop out. It was only a bad play because Briscoe turned it into one, the pass was as straightforward as you could hope for and one you'd catch 99 times out of 100.

You shouldn't let the end result of a play determine whether is was the right or wrong choice. Had Sinfield gone himself and conceded a drop out from which Catalans scored I'm sure you'd have been saying he was dumb not passing to Briscoe who is a strong carrier of the ball.

It was the wrong play, even if he runs from dummy half and Catalan force a drop out, with a minute on the clock it eats the time up.

I was stood in absolute disbelief that he'd even attempted the flat pass there at that point, there's so many more risks with that play that running it.

Bad plays do not however, take away from what I said we were missing, onfield management and organisation. Players are going to make the wrong decisions, but one error 99/100 does not lose you a match, where as poor discipline, a lack of organisation and a poor work ethic for 50 minutes of a game will!

Their was just over a minute and 40 secs on the clock, even with a slow walk to take the drop out they'd have gotten over a minute and a full set of six at us. If Briscoe takes the pass which he should've done and we get through our set and put a kick in that would've left Catalans a lot less time and further to travel.

Yes but way up the risks, you make a flat pass, Briscoe knocks on and Catalan score/ briscoe takes the pass and gets dragged over for a dropout anyway. You eliminate the knock on if you run from dummy half, which is already one less risk.

You take the knock on out of the equation and you have the same possible outcomes, so why take the risk with the knock on involved? Even if it's a drop out, it's what another 30/40 seconds maybe if we're lucky? At least we could have set up well to defend, we'd have had a much greater chance at that over what happened.

Were you honestly thinking to yourself at that play of the ball 'pass it' because I know I certainly wasn't and I'd expect anyone watching the game with a bit of awareness to have been expecting him to run, obviously in the game with all the adrenaline and what not, your decision can be effected so I'm not slating him for it, but as a spectator and if I'm brutally honest it was definitely the wrong play.

Please don't forget I am all for sinfield coming back into the side, I disagree with the people (sal) that don't think we could use him right now or that it wouldn't be better for us, but my opinion on that play is that it was definitely wrong aha

Briscoe running onto the ball had more chance of getting us away from the line than Sinfield running from dummy half (which isn't exactly a strong point for him) with the markers and other defenders rushing in to help push him back knowing he could only go left. How far do you honestly Sinfield would've gone? Tackled same spot if lucky but unlikely. Had the tackle been several yards further infield with the possibility that he could run either side of the PTB then yes he should do that. If the pass was too far then again bad idea. But it was simple as you like, Briscoe just messed up.

I'm still going to argue......... He makes 2 yards maximum but the next pass is easier to take because it's not flat

You continue to (inadvertently?) use the wrong 'their' by the way.

It is a puzzle why McDermott selects Sinfield in the 19 only to not appear in the final 17. It must mean he doesn't even figure in the training field moves integral to any match day tactics?!?
Maybe Sinfield[u is[/u being saved for the CC to give him the best chance of a more fancied second winner's medal

We don't like players throwing passes across the line in our 20 throwing a pass on your own line in any circumstances is crazy. It is not the % play especially if you are leading with <two minutes to go. He should have had enough experience to take the ball and get to ground. Briscoe is a strong runner from dummy half with some space - how much space is he going to have after Sinfield had passed him the ball? - it was a seriously dumb play and a poor example of game management.

The reason Peacock hasn't been given a reduced role in the team and Sinfield has is despite his age Peacock continues to make 150m an 30 tackles a game, and is still one of the best props in the competition. Sinfield's non-selection is as much about his performance levels prior to his injury as it is about his up coming departure. His body doesn't seem to be able to keep up with his brain anymore, and I think it's something he recognises as much as anyone at the club. However, he should still be in the 17 somewhere IMO, but his days of being the lynchpin of the side seem to be all but done.

Bingo Bongo

Spot on Charlie.

Never heard so much bull in my life , there is very little decline in Sinfields level of play and neither have results gone down hill when he has played this season , in fact quite the opposite

Are you comparing Sinfield`s contribution with last season or from a few years back?
There is no question that he has been and probably still is a remarkable captain and motivator of the team.
His kicking is second to none too.
But I am not convinced he is as good overall now as he was a few years ago.

The decline has been significant both physically and mentally in terms of speed. I would still have him in the 17 but not playing the pivotal position he has in the past

Like i say , in my opinion not much has changed in fact in a couple of games H.K.R away for one he has run more with the ball than previous , he has never relied on pace so that is not a factor and by all accounts his fitness levels in pre season were as good as ever in the testing that they do , amazed that once he announced he was leaving certain posters jump on the" well he is not the player he was" mode

He has been in steady decline "form wise" for over 18mths plus as for never having any pace he has looked much more heavy legged as well check back 18mths many said it then.
None of that is disrespectful or tarnishes his phenomenal achievements here without doubt the Clubs greatest ever Captain and hopefully plans are in place for a statue but time waits for no man and it's rapidly catching/caught up with Sir Kev.

We will just have to agree to disagree then as i just don't see it and i would be interested how many would not select him for the 13 if any match was a win for your life.

I'm just reading that he has donated his 500apps shirt for the Danny Jones Fund.Great gesture I think the club should make an effort to acquire it and display it when the Neww South stand is ready

Great Idea, I'll second that

Well there;s some food for thought. I'm sure there will be many that say that performance had nothing to do with Sinfield's re-introduction and that he didn't merit man of the match.

There will definitely be one. Don't think there will be many.

Sinfield had his best match for quite some time and his contribution deserved the MofM award. The decision to play him at 6 for this match was the correct one due to a need for better game management and points from kicks following a drop in form from Sutcliffe.

However IMO the main reason for our turn around in form was the performance of the pack notably JP, Cuthbertson, Delaney and Ward who created a go-forward platform which allowed our half backs and backs to perform. The return of Hall was another factor and not just his usual strong individual efforts but in allowing Watkins to return to the centres it gave a missing fluidity and confidence to our back play. I am sure Sutcliffe's game would have also benefited too had he been chosen but he would not have turned 4 point into the 6 with the same regularity that Sinfield did.

There are some that were suggesting the the likes of JP and Cuthbo should be rested having "been flogged" (in their opinion) but the best way to return to form is to play yourself back and the key period of first half possession allowed us to do that and build the all important confidence building momentum which squeezed Huddersfield out of the game.

I thought he played as well as has for some time - perhaps he had a point to prove to himself and his team mates? His tackling was as good as its been for a while. The move he put on Brough for the Watkins try was top draw.

The biggest change was the performance of the forwards - whether that was down to Sinfield's inclusion who knows, perhaps more likely a collective desire to retain the trophy?

His goal kicking is a huge plus to the team.