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| The Pryce is right.
How good was it to see him so gutted at the end?
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Only because Sinfield was missing.
Good drama at the need, but awful performance yet again. Just not getting better. We have the best defensive fullback going, and the worst who is filling in for him. Some awful defending all round though.
Deserved the win in the end due to all the poor referee calls. However first half we were completely outplayed.
Delaney was really bad first spell, then excellent in his second. Ward was superb in replacing Delaney. Walters does look to be improving all the time. Peacock was just brilliant second half. Luke Briscoe showed great enthusiasm at the end there which gave the team a lift. Aiton had good second half, and Hall had great last 15 mins of game. Moon was dangerous with ball and should have been switched to the halfs. McGuire tried so hard.'"
Think Bailey would've been at loose anyway with Sutcliffe on the bench for L.Briscoe.
When Leuluai was ruled out I think Bailey should've been moved to prop with Delaney to loose and either Achurch or Ward at 2nd row.
Speaking of Achurch thought he was more like the iffy 2013 version today. BJB whilst scored a good try was very poor as a last line of defence. Watkins and Briscoe again were pretty quiet. Also Singleton in defence, his reading of the play still worries me.
On the other side I thought Moon and Hall had strong games. Stevie Ward also looked good, as he did in his outings against Leigh and Hudds so can find himself unlucky to have missed out last week and was meant to miss out today, but on the other hand Walters who is keeping him out showed up well again. We got the more switched on version of Bailey today.
Overall I thought in attack we were ok (until we got the final 10m when we lacked ideas). Defensively we just seemed to lack concentration, not properly wrapping up attackers, not being alert in the A marker position, buying dummies and not being alert enough to the ball back inside.
Some poor tries conceded, mentioned how poor BJB was for a few but shouldn't have reached him in the first place I suppose. Also Catalans can say the same themselves, whilst good work by Ablett to score it was criminal from their defence to allow that to happen and whoever threw that pass for Moon's intercept should hang his head in shame.
One final note, Hicks is bloody awful.
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| Hicks was truly awful - made so many wrong calls both ways - I thought we were on the wrong end of a number of bad calls in the first half but then he seemed to make just as many bad calls in our favour in the second half.
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| Quote ="Fat Boy"Hicks was truly awful - made so many wrong calls both ways - I thought we were on the wrong end of a number of bad calls in the first half but then he seemed to make just as many bad calls in our favour in the second half.'"
Surely the worst was giving the Catalans last try, which looked forward, but more important to allow the kick from at least four yards further infield than it should have been.
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| What position was Coach Guisset playing?
He was on the pitch coaching the Dragons more than their subs.
It was an absolute joke, still no doubt Hicks couldn't see him he missed nearly all their off sides.
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| Didn't notice the kick position for the last Cats try and it's difficult to see forward passes from the Western Terrace (although there does seem to be a number of supporters round me that have 'panoramic vision').
Always think Hicks looks out of his depth when he's in field - much better when he's got a little flag in his hand.
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| Quote ="Old Feller"What position was Coach Guisset playing?
He was on the pitch coaching the Dragons more than their subs.
It was an absolute joke, still no doubt Hicks couldn't see him he missed nearly all their off sides.'"
Surprised the coaching staff who came on the field were allowed to wear yellow t-shirts to be honest given our kit for the day.
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Regarding the last Catalans try......meh. We've been awarded much dodgier looking tries than that. The TJ that side could've pinged us once or twice in the first half whilst down there for dodgy looking short passes from McGuire to Ablett.
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| Looks like Pryce has been indulging in too much French cuisine since moving to France, it was hard to distinguish between him and Taia.
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| today was probably the most lackluster performance that i have witnessed for many years,
the crowd certainly picked up on this as there was no atmosphere at the game what so ever
quality seeing leon giving the southstand the clenched fist after he set up millards try just after he had been given the verbals from them and then seeing him sat on his haunches in front of the southstand at the final hooter.......priceless
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| Very poor performance, happy with the win, but it shouldn't cloud how poor we were.
Bish -scored a good try but is so hesitant in fielding kick although he didn't do much wrong today.
Briscoe - works hard but seems to look abit off at the moment not really surprising though given his side is starved of possession.
Watkins - criminally under used.
Moon - probably our most consistent player along with peacock and hall at the moment, scored two good tries and put one on a plate for hall
Hall - came inside looking for the ball and put in a great shift
Sutcliffe - clearly has some class but for me isn't a half back, back rower for me. Nerves of steel for the vital penalty
McGuire - nothing flashy but tried extremely hard
Singleton - fan of the lad but not his best today
Aiton - worked his socks off impressed to say its only his second outing since his return
Peacock - great effort as per
Delaney - big in effort not his best today
Ablett - important try not a bad game but not his best by any stretch
Bailey - ran in and tackled but as most of the pack nothing special
Achurch - a couple of good runs but nothing stood out
Walters - nice try, getting better week by week
Ward - did well, even though he he wouldn't have been selected had Kylie not pulled up late.
L.briscoe - good spark late on
The game of reminiscent of Warrington in 2009 at headingley for me, hopefully it'll be the same outcome come the end of the season
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| Pryce kicking a dead ball into the field of play in the last few minutes ala Tommy Martyn was typical of the player and made the victory a little sweeter.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Surprised the coaching staff who came on the field were allowed to wear yellow t-shirts to be honest given our kit for the day.
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Regarding the last Catalans try......meh. We've been awarded much dodgier looking tries than that. The TJ that side could've pinged us once or twice in the first half whilst down there for dodgy looking short passes from McGuire to Ablett.'"
Just watched again on highlights, as stated clear forward pass. But more importantly the ball is placed about a metre from touch line. The kick was much further infield than that.
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| Dramatic game of not the best quality.
I echo what a few have said about BJB. Not a rock at the back, poor at fielding kicks but what a try. Hopefully Zak is refreshed and well behaved when he gets back because there is a big difference between the two.
Achurch was poor defensively today. Moon has improved out of sight on the start of the year.
I continue to be very impressed with Walters who gets better every week. Seemed the only player willing to push up and support the ball carrier. In the team on merit and should stay there. We attack in 1st too often.
We must persevere with Sutcliffe but he will have to impose himself more on the games. Was a passenger for long periods, but to be expected with a young lad playing half.
Was an important 2 points to keep us close to Saints, keep Huddersfield and Warrington at bay and pull away from Wigan. Will focus on that rather than the performance.
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| Was singleton injured I don't remember him coming back on.
Not the best performance but with the injuries a decent win, well done to Sutcliffe on the kick.
I echo the earlier calls for Watkins to get better ball still under used.
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| Defensively we were awful poor contact ,poor markers and gifted them trys with holes you could drive 2 buses through.
Bjb scored a cracking try but was poor again no real intent on kick returns pathetic for their first try as were Watkins and Singleton.
Ablett took a heavy bang on his shoulder after about 15mins but was kept out there and was carrying the injury clearly but scored a vital try.
There were also times when Aiton was blowing as expected but again was kept on the field.
Moon was M.O.M for me followed by Hall/JP.
I also think we seriously need another F/T Coach on the staff to freshen us up and hopefully add some spark we were so 1 dimensional in their 20m.
I thought we looked very tired at times which reflected in some of the poor defensive efforts.
The less said about Hicks the better completely useless!
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| Quote ="rhinos21"Was singleton injured I don't remember him coming back on.
Not the best performance but with the injuries a decent win, well done to Sutcliffe on the kick.
I echo the earlier calls for Watkins to get better ball still under used.'"
Singleton did come back on but with pretty much only 90 seconds left for Ablett....like Rhinoms said, think Ablett was struggling with a knock.
As for Watkins. Because he's a favourite on here, any game he doesn't shine is usually excused as "we aren't using him enough". When actually on some occasions, like today, he was just quiet when he was involved and wasn't at his best in defence either.
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| Agree with most that has been put on here. I think we missed Kylie more than we did Sinfield to be honest, though Sinfield may well have steadied us a bit more at certain points.
Hicks was very poor in my opinion. There were some dodgy calls either way, but the repeated Catalans offside was frustrating and it's something that has annoyed me with other refs this season too. It appears that the refs as a whole are happy to allow teams to hold down quite a while and be a few steps offside this season. Which is annoying as it doesn't help the quicker teams and the teams who don't hold down.
I also get annoyed at incidents where the ref just plainly ignores the rules. The incident where Pryce kicked the ball back in-field was a clear 10 minutes and should have been punished. I don't know why he decided not to punish a deliberate attempt to slow the game.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Singleton did come back on but with pretty much only 90 seconds left for Ablett....like Rhinoms said, think Ablett was struggling with a knock.
As for Watkins. Because he's a favourite on here, any game he doesn't shine is usually excused as "we aren't using him enough". When actually on some occasions, like today, he was just quiet when he was involved and wasn't at his best in defence either.'"
Fair dos it just seems that he doesn't get enough ball but as you say he wasn't at his best today.
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| Quote ="G1"Dramatic game of not the best quality.
I echo what a few have said about BJB. Not a rock at the back, poor at fielding kicks but what a try. Hopefully Zak is refreshed and well behaved when he gets back because there is a big difference between the two.
Achurch was poor defensively today. Moon has improved out of sight on the start of the year.
I continue to be very impressed with Walters who gets better every week. Seemed the only player willing to push up and support the ball carrier. In the team on merit and should stay there. We attack in 1st too often.
We must persevere with Sutcliffe but he will have to impose himself more on the games. Was a passenger for long periods, but to be expected with a young lad playing half.
Was an important 2 points to keep us close to Saints, keep Huddersfield and Warrington at bay and pull away from Wigan. Will focus on that rather than the performance.'"
On your points G1, it seems that Achurch is a player who needs the momentum. He was playing more minutes, running into some form and putting his stamp on things. The niggly injury seems to have disrupted that. hopefully he gets back up to speed quick.
Sutcliffe for me disappointed in a few defensive reads and was soft in the tackle. Needs to sort that quick or opposition will be running in his direction all the time.
Walters is brilliant. Reminds me of Clarkson with how he burst onto the scene on merit with some eye catching contributions. Which lead to another point in how Clarksons development hasn't really happened. Which opens it up to Walters. Kylie was injured in warm up so Stevie Ward who was 18th man stepped in. So Walters is currently higher in pecking order that Ward and Clarkson on form. Rightly so, Mac here picking on form. Wish that would filter through to a certain other passenger.....
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| I thought Achurch did great in defence for the time he was on. Not sure how many tackles, but wouldn't be surprised to see him in top 3 at all.
I also said yesterday that Walters gets better each week, but thought Ward had a much better game, and really did look the part. Ward for me should be in the team each week on merit.
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| Aiton 45 tackles 2 misses
Bailey 38, 1miss
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| Catalan were mugged of 2 points yesterday afternoon, for sure. Very fortunate. If it wasn't for Pryce being a tool, I'd feel sorry for him having it taken away after the end of the game. It's a shame he lost movement in his neck after the kick went over, which meant he didn't turn to look at the South Stand at all...
Ok, so a couple of thoughts / reflections...
I was quite frustrated with a few of the tries we scored being right in the corner, when the scorers could probably have got closer to the sticks. It was clear from early on that Sutcliffe was going to miss any kicks from wide but thankfully enough we got out of it in the end. I guess I am thinking mainly of BJB's long run - could he have grounded closer to the posts? I think there was maybe another one as well.
Secondly, does anyone know what happened with the lack of Catalan 'polka jerseys'? I was looking forward to it. In the end it was like a fancy dress party was advertised, but only half of the people then turned up in fancy dress! It would have been really cool to have seen both engaging with (and celebrating) the TdF. Shame.
Not sure if it was ref-related; (ie. they weren't contrasting enough) or if they just didn't play ball; (ie. 'Yeah sure, we will wear the polka jerseys...' [marketing bloke leaves room... Ok lads; there is the bin - fill it with these tops quick!')
Maybe the next time the TdF starts in Leeds, they will wear the polkas then!
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| Quote ="thebloodbath" Rightly so, Mac here picking on form. Wish that would filter through to a certain other passenger.....'"
Agree wholeheartedly! Bailey should be nowhere near starting once all members of the squad are fit. Yet again the lump wood was presented with an opportunity to show he can play the part as a prop forward and failed.
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| Quote ="rhinobucs"Agree wholeheartedly! Bailey should be nowhere near starting once all members of the squad are fit. Yet again the lump wood was presented with an opportunity to show he can play the part as a prop forward and failed.'"
You're obsessed. What part did he fail? nearly 40 tackles, what a failure.
Bailey's putting a run together now. No nonsense, just getting on with it. Put a solid shift in, no silly penalties, tackled all over the field and overall over last few weeks has been bumping them off in the drive. There on merit.
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