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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"Any news on Worral, and where he will be playing next year. He's not every fans cup of tea, but he is a steady player to have around, and a grafter, although never a first choice.
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I've seen and heard nothing official re Worrall except that he was still talking to clubs (including Leeds.)
I'm not his biggest fan (cough) and yet in his latest role within the team as interchange hooker with Diskin he's proved his value. Obviously not likely to get the gig there with Buderus, Diskin and McShane on the books but perhaps that is closer to his best option in league, if he can develope the skill set with ball in hand.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Yes indeed.
I seem to recall I've been questioning the wisdom of the Buderus signing all along but I'll accept your and Mr Head High's generous offer of support.
On the right centre issue and overall squad strength in 2009 I've had some more good news this week as Mr Leeds RLFC (Harry Jepson OBE) has declared an interest and can now be added to Gary Hetherington in the 'keeping it real' camp.
[url=http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/rugby-league-headlines/Leeds-Rhinos-Class-of-3909.5705887.jp"I think we'll be stronger because, through no fault of our own, this year we haven't replaced Gareth Ellis and we've had to make do in the centres, after losing Clinton Toopi. We haven't had a settled centre combination all season."[/url'" Interesting selective quoting.
Did you not like these quoites from Mr Jepson.
Quote Victory over St Helens in Saturday's engage Super League Grand Final would confirm the current Leeds Rhinos team as the club's best-ever.
That's the view of club president Harry Jepson OBE, who is uniquely qualified to compare all Leeds' championship-winning sides.
Jepson, 89, has been watching rugby league since the 1920s and rates the present vintage as highly – if not higher – than all Leeds' previous sides.
"I think this group of players could well be considered the best in the history of the club, as a complete unit. It is a very good team," Jepson said today. '"
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| Quote ="G1"Interesting selective quoting.
Did you not like these quoites from Mr Jepson.'"
The quote was specific to the question of the centre situation from this season, which you had raised.
I provided the link for the full text.
Is Jepson also pandering to the disgruntled fan base in the build up to the Grand Final?
The Leeds club is approaching an unbelievable milestone. Let's save the congratulations for after the final whistle.
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The Leeds club is approaching an unbelievable milestone. Let's save the congratulations for after the final whistle.'" They were Mr Jepsons' words not mine. I wouldn't dream of claiming to know more about the game than he.
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| Quote ="G1"They were Mr Jepsons' words not mine. '"
'The icing on the cake' would be nice later today.
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| A few notable achievements on Saturday (including of course the big one)
Changes in Bold, don't think I've missed any but can't remember if Smith scored a try in '07 and '08 (and too tired to check right now!)
Quote ="tvoc"SL Grand Final Stats: (Not Including 2009)
Teams
Most Appearances: 6 - Bradford, St Helens
Most Wins: 4 - St Helens, Leeds
Most Defeats: 3 - Bradford, Wigan, St Helens
Most Consecutive Appearances: 5 - Bradford
[size=200Most Consecutive Wins: 3 - Leeds, [2 -St Helens[/size
Most Consecutive Defeats: 3 - St Helens, [2- Wigan
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Most Appearances: 5 - Brian Noble
Most Wins: 3 - Brian Noble
Most Defeats: 2 - Daniel Anderson, Brian Noble
Most Consecutive Appearances: 5 - Brian Noble
Most Consecutive Wins: 2 - Bluey
Most Consecutive Defeats: 2 - Daniel Anderson
Players
Most Appearances: 9 - Leon Pryce
Most Starting Appearances: 8 - Jamie Peacock
Most Substitute Appearances: 4 - Paul Anderson
Most Wins: 6 - Jamie Peacock
Most Defeats: 5 - Lee Gilmour, [4- Terry Newton, Leon Pryce
Most Tries: 4 - Danny McGuire, Michael Withers
Most Goals: 17 - Kevin Sinfield
Most Drop Goals: 2 - Rob Burrow, [1- Paul Deacon, Iestyn Harris, Sean Long, Henry Paul, Paul Sculthorpe
Most Points: 35 - Kevin Sinfield
Danny McGuire is the only player to score tries in three different Grand Finals. (Now joined by Smith??)
Edit: Thanks to Leicester's eagle eye. Despite Sinfield losing the point he's still the GF's top scorer on 30, with Sean Long languishing behind on 29.'"
JP's 6 wins is a phenomenal achievement!
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| Quote ="Vic Mackey"A few notable achievements on Saturday (including of course the big one)
Changes in Bold, don't think I've missed any but can't remember if Smith scored a try in '07 and '08 (and too tired to check right now!)
JP's 6 wins is a phenomenal achievement!'"
Smith joins McGuire with 4 GF tries too,
And Saints go up to 7 appearances on their own.
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| And we move up to 6 appearances.
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| Didn't Sky say only Burgess and Eastmond had no grand final experience?
What about Puletua or did he play in a NRL Grand Final?
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| Quote ="tvoc"Didn't Sky say only Burgess and Eastmond had no grand final experience?
What about Puletua or did he play in a NRL Grand Final?'"
Didn't I read somewhere that Puletua was looking to join the "Northern and Southern GF Winners" club
Yup
Puletua made his debut for the Penrith Panthers in 1997 and was captain of the team from January, 2006. He is a member of the Panthers team which defeated the Sydney Roosters to win the 2003 Grand final.
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| Quote ="loinertillidie"Didn't I read somewhere that Puletua was looking to join the "Northern and Southern GF Winners" club
Yup
Puletua made his debut for the Penrith Panthers in 1997 and was captain of the team from January, 2006. He is a member of the Panthers team which defeated the Sydney Roosters to win the 2003 Grand final.'"
Thanks for that, Ian Proctor rules.
Just updating the GF winners and losers list. Can you tell.
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| we have now 7 championship /grand final wins ,which looks a bit more creditable for a club of leeds standing .
how do we stand now in the list of title wins ?and i dont just mean super league i mean right back to 1895
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| 1 - Wigan 19
2 - St Helens 12
3 - Bradford 10
=4 - Huddersfield 7
=4 - Leeds 7
=6 - Hull 6
=6 - Salford 6
=6 - Swinton 6
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"we have now 7 championship /grand final wins ,which looks a bit more creditable for a club of leeds standing .
how do we stand now in the list of title wins ?and i dont just mean super league i mean right back to 1895'"
Surely that list is not a valid comparison.
I wonder what is the respective list for the SL era only ?????
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| Quote ="tvoc"1 - Wigan 19
2 - St Helens 12
3 - Bradford 10
=4 - Huddersfield 7
=4 - Leeds 7
=6 - Hull 6
=6 - Salford 6
=6 - Swinton 6
9 - Hull KR 5
=10 - Halifax 4
=10 - Oldham 4'"
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| Quote ="tvoc"1 - Wigan 19
2 - St Helens 12
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=4 - Leeds 7
=6 - Hull 6
=6 - Salford 6
=6 - Swinton 6
9 - Hull KR 5
=10 - Halifax 4
=10 - Oldham 4'"
To complete the list of Championship winners for the curious:
=12 - Warrington 3
=12 - Widnes 3
=14 - Dewsbury 2
=14 - Hunslet 2
=14 - Leigh 2
=14 - Wakefield 2
=18 - Batley 1
=18 - Broughton R 1
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| That list, and the company Leeds were beneath and just above, should remind everyone just what a golden period these last 6 seasons and 4 championships have been.
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| Quote ="G1"That list, and the company Leeds were beneath and just above, should remind everyone just what a golden period these last 6 seasons and 4 championships have been.'"
we should cherish every minute of it.
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| Quote ="G1"That list, and the company Leeds were beneath and just above, should remind everyone just what a golden period these last 6 seasons and 4 championships have been.'"
long may they continue!
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| Quote ="Royston-Vasey"long may they continue!'" A long period of Wiganesque dominance. Turn the SL into an ovoid SPL? No thanks.
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| Quote ="loinertillidie"A long period of Wiganesque dominance. Turn the SL into an ovoid SPL? No thanks.'"
so if we win it again next season you wont be celebrating?
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| Quote ="loinertillidie"A long period of Wiganesque dominance. Turn the SL into an ovoid SPL? No thanks.'" Its' very easy for an out of townie bandwagon glory hunter to take such a dispassionate view and put the good of the game ahead of success for the Rhinos.
Personally, I'd like things to carry on as they are for a whee while longer. This club, and its' devoted fans, deserve a little longer in the sun.
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| Quote ="G1"Its' very easy for an out of townie bandwagon glory hunter to take such a dispassionate view and put the good of the game ahead of success for the Rhinos.
Personally, I'd like things to carry on as they are for a whee while longer. This club, and its' devoted fans, deserve a little longer in the sun.'" he does have a very good point, as much as i'd like leeds to carry on winning (and can't really see anything other then us being there next year). it could well be the death of the sport (well destroy the little bit of general public interest in the sport), if the other clubs don't get their acts together
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| Quote ="MHL"he does have a very good point, as much as i'd like leeds to carry on winning (and can't really see anything other then us being there next year). it could well be the death of the sport (well destroy the little bit of general public interest in the sport), if the other clubs don't get their acts together'"
Not Leeds' problem (they already underspend the cap and routinely fail miserably in the Challenge Cup.)
It's up to the rest really and it's hardly a chasm.
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| Quote ="MHL"he does have a very good point, as much as i'd like leeds to carry on winning (and can't really see anything other then us being there next year). it could well be the death of the sport (well destroy the little bit of general public interest in the sport), if the other clubs don't get their acts together'" Death of the sport seems a little over dramatic.
Whilst ever Leeds and St Helens, the two clubs who show real devotion to junior development, are the pinnacle of the sport we can only hope the rest of the clubs catch on and do likewise. Then the game will be really healthy.
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