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| Quote ="Saddened!"His willingness to play for Leeds for less money than a first team prop should cost is the main reason he's lasted at Leeds IMO.'"
Of course it is.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Bailey isn't this master of the art of self discipline either. He is a decent defender, offers absolutely nothing in attack and at times costs Leeds with his lack of discipline. '"
Ten penalties in ten games this season in SL - less than that well known indisciplined thug Paul Sykes as it happens.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Ten penalties in ten games this season in SL - less than that well known indisciplined thug Paul Sykes as it happens.'"
. . . who plays 80 minutes every week.
The only props I can see above RB in the most penalised players are LMS (well known for terrible discipline), Morley (likewise and plays much longer spells than RB), Andy Coley (an all time King of penalties) and Andy Raleigh.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"His willingness to play for Leeds for less money than a first team prop should cost is the main reason he's lasted at Leeds IMO.'"
how much does he get paid? how much do all the other first team props get paid?
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| Quote ="FearTheVee". . . who plays 80 minutes every week.
The only props I can see above RB in the most penalised players are LMS (well known for terrible discipline), Morley (likewise and plays much longer spells than RB), Andy Coley (an all time King of penalties) and Andy Raleigh.'"
I'd imagine that Bailey has averaged 50mins a game this season, and would get through a hell of a lot more work that Sykes
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"I'd imagine that Bailey has averaged 50mins a game this season, and would get through a hell of a lot more work that Sykes'"
We're talking Ryan Bailey here dude. He's managed carries in single figures, metres made in the 40s in the past.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"We're talking Ryan Bailey here dude. He's managed carries in single figures, metres made in the 40s in the past.'"
You want him in your side don't you??
You've over compensated your dislike for him too much for their to be any other logical reasoning behind your train of thought.
And 'dude' are you still in the 90's?
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"how much does he get paid? how much do all the other first team props get paid?'"
I'd be interested in knowing this too.
He seems to know alot about TMFMISL.
Man crush - gotta be.
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"I'd be interested in knowing this too.
He seems to know alot about TMFMISL.
Man crush - gotta be.'"
Unless you are him you've got no room to speak about this. But then again, you can't be Ryan Bailey as you can type and acronymise.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Unless you are him you've got no room to speak about this.'"
Why?
Stop dodging the topic, back up your previous blah blah blah.
What are the players on? The same crack as you by the sounds of it.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"We're talking Ryan Bailey here dude. He's managed carries in single figures, metres made in the 40s in the past.'"
And what proportion of Pens are given away while in posession? Maybe 10%
And how many of these are for 'thugish' acts? Maybe 10% of these
I'd say about 1% overall.
Defensively, where most pens are given away, I'd wager that Bailey gets through more work in a match than Sykes
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| Please Mods, can we not have a quota to the amount of Bailey threads we have on this board?
It's got to be the most boring subject going now. A fine debate for the first couple of times, but now just ridiculous.
Never could such an average player have got so much discussion. But he is a player who does the job he is paid to do and what every other squad needs.
He is far better than what the silly Saints and Hull fans make out, and nothing close to been dirty like they say. But he is nowhere near as good as some way over the top blinkered Leeds fans would have you believe either.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"He is far better than what the silly Saints and Hull fans make out, and nothing close to been dirty like they say. But he is nowhere near as good as some way over the top blinkered Leeds fans would have you believe either.'"
I'll compromise and settle on that.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Quote ="Andy Gilder"Ten penalties in ten games this season in SL - less than that well known indisciplined thug Paul Sykes as it happens.'"
. . . who plays 80 minutes every week.
The only props I can see above RB in the most penalised players are LMS (well known for terrible discipline), Morley (likewise and plays much longer spells than RB), Andy Coley (an all time King of penalties) and Andy Raleigh.'"
But 10 penalties in 10 games is misleading anyway.
I'm no Tvoc, but from the SL website stats:
Over the 7 seasons from 2003 to 2009 Bailey has given away 74 penalties - an average of just over 10 per season or roughly 1 penalty every third game (those 7 seasons equate to 188 games).
Hardly the walking penalty machine opposition fans like to think - eh?
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Please Mods, can we not have a quota to the amount of Bailey threads we have on this board?
It's got to be the most boring subject going now. A fine debate for the first couple of times, but now just ridiculous.'"
I agree we should just make it a permanent thread like the Leeds Utd one
Quote He is far better than what the silly Saints and Hull fans make out, and nothing close to been dirty like they say. But he is nowhere near as good as some way over the top blinkered Leeds fans would have you believe either.'"
But do any Leeds fans really make him out to be that good? I've not really noticed anyone say anything more than that he's an integral member of our squad who has earned his place for the last 8 years (which to be fair is an achievement in itself).
I'd also add that at 26 he has a few years left in the tank and will hopefully continue to hold down his place on merit.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"No there wasn't, don't lie.'"
yes there was, in burtonwood. Number of warrington players were there.
Unlucky.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"I'll help you out - he was running cross field getting mullered, then hiding in the centres whilst James Graham was busy winning the game.'"
yeah the problem with this post is the utter tosh which is bailey was hiding out in the centres? bailey defends where he should in the structure, if he didn't Sini peacock his team mates and the coaches would be in his ear! what a load of old crap you post.
ps nobody feers the V! Defo not around here anyway!
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| Quote ="Codarmysaint"
Unlucky.'"
Yes, you are.
What did these 'players' say about TMFMISL?? Out of interest??
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| Quote ="Codarmysaint"yes there was, in burtonwood. Number of warrington players were there.
Unlucky.'"
So what did they have to say?
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"Yes, you are.
What did these 'players' say about TMFMISL?? Out of interest??'"
I'm guna sit down for this one.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"
Bailey offers absolutely nothing in attack'"
I've seen bailey been the key match winner in all our champion winning seasons! No more so against hull kr away last year when he ripped em apart making a brake out pacing the cover and putting watkins over for the winner whilst briscoe attemted to remove his head! Great power and footwork to brake the line, great pace for a big lad to stay away, great pass and timing to but watkins in, brave as for not thinking twice about the defender flying in above the shoulders.
Quote ="Saddened!"His willingness to play for Leeds for less money than a first team prop should cost is the main reason he's lasted at Leeds IMO.'" based on what evidence? that's right the guff in your head! Crap statement, backed up with fook all evidence! IMO your opinion on this comment isn't worth $hit
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Are you sitting comfortably?
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