Other sides aren’t throwing games, they’re just getting caught out by resting players or underestimating better quality lower table opposition.

It’s also something we are suffering from.
Despite being poor, no club is going to rest players against us, yet they might against our the likes of Salford, Hull KR & London.

But they are not going all out for the wins are they, no side will rest against us will they, so we have to win 7-8 games which I cannot see us doing, I can see London and Hull kr winning 5-6 games so it's going to be right to the bone, I don't fancy Wakefield going all out last game of the season to beat London.

Wakefield aren’t out of the relegation fight themselves

Depressing .I really did think we would be better this year or at least give a better account of themselves

I felt pretty optimistic at start of the season!!!

Me too, however I think the club was in a much worse state than we thought, what’s frustrating is we have got some gtmreat kids coming through, Newman coming in and looking ready is a massive plus, I would have liked to have seen more of Mclelland though, maybe we will in the next month or so

I agree for me sutcliffe needs to go he’s a rotten apple too busy partying maybe early praise went to his head, but he doesn’t even have the performance on field to put up with his poor attitude. Tui is a shambles I wouldn’t have him in the shirt again. McLennand needs to be goven a run it’s better than the poop we have at the moment

What’s the highest number of points a relegated club has had in the Super League era?

I think McD was a fan of Sutcliffe but I can’t see KS putting up with much rubbish in attitude.

I dunno, I would imagine there is some naughty going on throughout the game. Young lads, talented, pressurised, with plenty of cash. I don’t like any of that myself personally, but it is extremely hard to control.

I haven’t seen enough from Sutcliffe to make me think he should stay. We have better players in all the positions he can play. As utility he adds value but it depends at what price on and off field.

I think it’s 19 when Cas were relegated when Catalans were bottom, other than that it’s been around 12 points as a high point, usually lower. Some years it’s only been 2 or4 points.

I don’t particularly mind him if he is on the bench he does have utility value, but he believed his own hype and has done some stuff I won’t repeat on here. I know he isn’t on his own in that regard but he doesn’t have the talent to justify it

The fact of the matter is you have 2 teams who are way in front of the rest then all the rest can beat each other on any given day but i don't say that in a good way i mean all 10 of those teams can stink the house out for a lot of the season so it does not take a great deal to beat them if you are anything like on the day.

Hull FC will likely finish 3rd for example and lets be honest they are garbage and not even anywhere near the side they were when they won back to back CC's, that side should really be down where we are but because the quality is so bad they are in the mix.

We are going to have to learn to play as a team quickly.

Hoiking the ball to Hurrell and expecting him to run through the opposition team from 80 metres out every time is not a strategy. Newman, Dwyer, Sutcliffe, Smith are too greedy and need to learn to play their teammates into space rather than going for glory every time.

We need a kicking game of some kind too and Myler can’t produce it. I’d prefer McLelland in there if fit because we might at least get more than one decent end of set option per game.

Myler won't be dropped. But he should be.

Well if we discount Cas as they didn’t finish bottom, the record to be broken this year, hopefully not by us.

sad,pathetic it really does p*ss you off that leeds the biggest club in the world of rugby league are just crap and little old hull fc are third in the league semi finals of the cup and who are slowly getting players back from a crippling injury 12month period who lets be honest should,nt be any were near the top 5 because they don,t have any marquee signings it just is,nt fair

I SAY SUCK IT UP PAL

Oh point taken ,but I'm sure if there are any Wigan fans looking in will have something to say about which is the biggest club in world Rugby League they keep reminding us of that all the time. By the way thanks for not using foul language

Why drag wigan fans into it? Typicall you just concentrate on your cr@p team and we will on ours thank you

Leeds look really vulnerable unless you can bring in a decent half back. Whoever decided to spend marquee money on a back rower and a centre want sacking (unless they already have been). They need to be pivotal players only imo. 1, 6, 7 or 9 are the only positions I'd look

Only fun ,you have to laugh at times like this

Some mistakes made no doubt

I agree and disagree with that. Top successful teams have often had the best centre in the league in their team not necessarily the best half backs hooker or full back. Senior newlove lyons gleeson connoly etc that's ko coincidense imo

If Leeds were adding hurell to an already established top 4 side then he would make a huge impact in the side as it us you cannot polish a turd with few good players which they have tried to do.


Up until now I've always thought na Leeds won't go down but with every London n Hull kr result it becomes more if a possibility.

I agree and disagree with that. Top successful teams have often had the best centre in the league in their team not necessarily the best half backs hooker or full back. Senior newlove lyons gleeson connoly etc that's ko coincidense imo

If Leeds were adding hurell to an already established top 4 side then he would make a huge impact in the side as it us you cannot polish a turd with few good players which they have tried to do.


Up until now I've always thought na Leeds won't go down but with every London n Hull kr result it becomes more if a possibility.

I think its fair to say that there is one team who are streets in front, a bit like they were last year and look how that turned out for them.

You then have another team who have blown hot but more recently are starting to blow cold a bit more frequently then they would like (both home and away).

3rd, the team you label as garbage. A team who when they blow cold, admittedly, blow at absolute zero. But they are also a team who have a 79% win rate away from home and put your sorry lot away within then space of 20 first half minutes earlier this season.

I think you should concentrate on your own teams deficiencies before you start worrying about others.

Touched a nerve there did i?