How about this one

Ben Cross has gone to Wigan

so if we don't sign anyone we are (even further) under the salary cap and down 2 players from our elite squad
even with the decline in super league you cant expect any squad to compete on that basis, even one that had managed to play at a decent level in the first half of the season

Care to expand. We dont need him we have gaz hock

Don't get too excited he just wanted to visit Tescos and the pier while he's still in the country.

ur biting again

on loan until the end of the season.

Can't see it tbh, we have a lot of depth in the forwards especially with hock and fielden coming back.

No thanks

Burgess confirmed to Souths immediately: www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/nrl/b ... 6079204756

Burgess confirmed to Souths immediately: www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/nrl/b ... 6079204756

Quote ="craigizzard"Burgess confirmed to Souths immediately: www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/nrl/b ... 6079204756'" That should free up £20k on the cap

Quote ="craigizzard"Burgess confirmed to Souths immediately: www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/nrl/b ... 6079204756'" That should free up £20k on the cap

Quote ="craigizzard"Burgess confirmed to Souths immediately: www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/nrl/b ... 6079204756'" Good job Biff left early, to sort that deal out. I mean it did take a number of hours to finalise. Half a job, big, tit.

Quote ="craigizzard"Burgess confirmed to Souths immediately: www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/nrl/b ... 6079204756'" Good job Biff left early, to sort that deal out. I mean it did take a number of hours to finalise. Half a job, big, tit.

Why has Crowe taken him? Just get his head further ups Sams rear? Crowe seems to be doing everything in his power to keep Sam happy.

Maybe he sees some potential in him that out coaching and management team don't?

Leeds offered him a 3 year deal which he knocked back.

Hmm no brainer for Biff that one.

Better than sitting it out in an environment where you are clearly not wanted - Leeds training for no purpose, Sydney training in an elite squad in the best league in the game - that's a tough one - who is the tit?

One thing is for sure 30 months in Aus and he will be a significantly better player than if he spent 30 months being trained by the Chuckle Brothers at Kirstall.

Indeed. But Sam and the other Burgess brothers won't come to Leeds.

Training for no purpose?

How about training for the job he has been paid to do? As a member of the Rhinos squad. He has fallen away from selection but if every player moved on when this happened you would need a turnstile on the training paddock.

One minute he announces he will stay and fight for a spot, like he should, then he wants to be released.

I'll have my cake and eat it.

He was always going at the end of the season so Leeds had to plan life without him. IMO Biff at present would offer more than some members, but we can't control that.

To make him a significantly better prop player at his age, surely extensive game time and added responsibility would be just as important. Let's see what game time he gets. How is Mike Worrincy getting on? I bet he comes back a Super Star.

The salary cap audits have just been completed.

As I said before we don't know the details of the contract - it could have been a really good offer, on the hand it could have been a Calderwood?

Leeds have decided he will not get selected regardless of how well or otherwise he plays/trains - so he is training will zero chance of being selected, that is not his decision that is a coaching/management decision.

He said he did not want to go to another club, he used the fight for my place as a reason not to go to Cas - if Wigan had come calling he may have taken a different tack.

Players spend 25-30 hours a week on the training field and 80 minutes on the field. Most people accept it is what happens on the training field that develops players and enables them to perform on the field. If I had a choice of training within an NRL set up or down at Kirkstall with Dumb and Dumber I know which I would choose. 99% of players would benefit from spending time in the NRL.

Worrincy will be a better player for his time in a NRL set up - not difficult I agree.

What both he and Burgess will be able to do better are the basics something that seperates us from the NRL and they will both be physically fitter and stronger.

What happens when we pick up a few front row injuries or has gh got someone in mind now to bring in ? Highly unlikely

Believe the sleeve.

Whereas what Burgess actually stated was this:



I suppose it's a case of 'which came first, the chicken or the egg?' but I read that as non selection - ask for a release - if not released - stay at Leeds until contract expires fighting for a place.

Not sure what else he could do after losing his prop position to Kirke.

Agree Tvoc. Biff v Kirke?? Souths would not be signing Kirke that's for sure! Bye Biff and thanks and congratulations!