Only half of Sinfield's salary counts towards the cap.

Edit -

Technically that's not true because there's a 'minimum' clause of £50,000. It all reads a bit complicated but either way... I don't think Sinfield's wage could ever be reduce enough to make a difference to the cap.

That's not how it works now is it?

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There have been five contract extensions/renegotiations this last week involving the current season (?) - Hall, Jones-Bishop, Clarkson, Watkins and Sinfield. If Wigan had done this they'd be getting points docked shortly under the 'spirit of the salary cap.'



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Excellent news for the club and all record keepers out there.

And can I be the first to say (on this thread at least) that 'Sinni is well fit.'

Innit!!!

Not strictly no.

[iWhere a Club is able to demonstrate to the satisfaction of the RSCM that one of its
Players has been registered with that Club for ten consecutive Seasons (the first
Season being deemed to be the one in which the Player made his debut in a Salary
Cap Relevant Match for the Club), the Salary Cap Value of that Player in the Salary
Cap Year in which the eleventh (and any subsequent consecutive) Season falls will
(subject to Clause 5.9) be deemed to be 50% of the value that would otherwise apply
by applying the principles set out in this Clause 5 (the “Long Service Concession”).
Comment to Clause 5.8:

For example, where the Salary Cap Value for a Player would
ordinarily be calculated at £75,000, if that Player qualifies for the Long Service Concession
then (subject to the application of Clause 5.9) the deemed Salary Cap Value for that Player will
be only £37,500.[/i

There's a clause about a minimum of £50k and stuff which all reads a bit confusing. But the point is thus, I doubt we'd be able to reduce Sinfield's wage enough to make any cap room.


P.s. Totally agree!! Sinnie is BUFF!!!!!!

The £50K maximum disreguard per club would be the major stumbling block given Leeds currently have Sinfield, Senior, Jones-Buchanan and will shortly be adding Burrow and McGuire to the calculations.

At least Diskin is no longer part of the same equation.

Well it can still only be a good thing surely? Even with clauses in place, you're still getting rewarded for having players of service.

Wire fans playing with each others emotions...

Check out the thread title...

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Whilst you do have the right to hold a differing opinion it's wrong to say neither are more valid than the other.

I could be of the opinion that I have chiseled abs that would make a female drip with lust. Of course, it would be pure fantasy and have no basis in fact. My wife could be of the opinion that my mid sections is large and flabby. Her opinion would likely be far more valid and fact based.

You see, whilst you are free to have, and state opinions, we are free to say they are bat loony tunes, speaking of which, there's another post of yours I need to quote in a second.

So, the mark of a "top notch play maker" is one who is automatically selected for England is it.

In which case you really back up your argument with.........................



Lee Briars(sic). Great example shag. Do tell me about how many rep jerseys Lee Briars(sic) has earned in comparison to Sinfield? This is, I am afraid, one of those occasions where you are, of course, entitled to express your opinion but, gee whizz, you really shouldn't be allowed to, for your own safety.

I iz gonna scratch yer eyes out for dat. E iz all mine.

I'm not seeking to suggest it's not a good clause (I think it is to encourage and reward loyalty), just that Leeds will not be benefitting any more from it now than they were two or three seasons ago. The same can be said of the disreguard under the cap to encouraging Academy production, if that's still in place.



Wots ur prblem b[iitc[/ih

not at all .Ispend a lot of time in the USA and there is a player at the YANKEES Derek Jeter he's 38 and they keep giving him a new deal because"he's the heart and soul of the club"

They will be benefiting next year though surely? Burrow & McGuire's salaries will count considerably less towards the cap next year than they do this. Whether it's 50% less or not, still less?!

I.e. If, for 2012, we kept exactly the same squad on exactly the same salaries, the dramatic reduction in what Burrow/McGuire's salary counts towards the cap could mean enough for another player?

I've always interpreted that clause as meaning there is a £50k limit per club, which if I'm right would mean that presumably we've been using this £50k limit for the last couple of years anyway with either Sinfield or Senior and so any new players gaining testimonials would be irrelevant.

Ahhhhh! Right!! Now you've said that it does read like that! Makes sense now.

Shame really then, seems as if there's no advantage to getting several players +10 years still performing well.

Sorry for the diversion on this thread but:

as I understand it each club can only disreguard in total £50K against the salary cap.

That's £50K in total per club. Depending when Sinfield's salary first qualified (debut 1997 - 1st team regular by 1999) that would have I imagined swallowed the bulk if not all of the allowance. Then (in case any of the allowance was left over) add Senior, Jones-Buchanan, Diskin and shortly Burrow and McGuire and I really can't imagine there's an additional benefit for Leeds to receive.

Unless, of course, I've completely mis-understood how the £50K disreguard operates.

Edit: Case closed. Back to Sinni being well fit, innit.

Good to see the living legend signed up for the next 4 years. I'm sure he will continue to lead from the front with the great style and grace he as since way back

Don't worry it took a few reads and an explanation from someone smarter than me to understand it myself!

Back on topic with Sinfield - Great news. As has been said a true professional and role model and the best captain I've seen at Leeds, which admittedly isn't long compared to some of the more "senior" members of this site


It's people like Sinfield which make me proud of the club.
Quite why there's a need for a couple of rather strange people to try and suggest this isn't such a great move for the club is beyond me though.

Just for you tvoc...

Gareth you don't read the posts properly - Briars will not get selected because the rest of his game is not upto scratch especially his tackling. The point is not about Sinfield's other qualities but whether he is a top notch playmaker - How many games as he played as playmaker for GB/England? The examples given are the ultimate playmakers in the game - you and RR maybe believe Sinfield is as good as Benji Marshall that is your entitlement - but before you scorn others you should first follow the thread

Gareth whether you have a chisled six pack is a fact - if some ladies like that is an opinion?

Been having a discussion with a Bulls supporting colleague at work today about how pivotal Sinfield has been to Leeds success in recent years, which in his opinion wasn't an awful lot.

For me, what he brings to the side isn't always obvious in terms of big hits, clean breaks or tries. He's an intelligent player who reads game situations well (his drop goal and the tap back to Jones-Bishop at Hull being recent examples). He sets the tone for the side with his workrate, a lead by example captain rather than a shouter who knows how to get the most out of those around him.

In short, someone who - if he wants to and applies himself to it properly - has all the makings of going on to become a very good coach.

I can't believe we're even discussing whether or not Sinfield is pivotal for the club.

I can't believe that there's even a debate. I'm beginning to wonder if there's another Sinfield that plays in the reserves and he's the one that's signed a new deal.

Easily in the top 5 greatest Rhinos players OF ALL TIME signs a new contract extension and we take it as an opportunity to criticise his ability as a playmaker. I don't wonder we get called the 'Whinos'.

Correct.

I'm glad you qualified that statement with the insertion of "Rhinos" though.

Otherwise you'd be wrong.

Lucky that we're playing as the Rhinos now then isn't it.

I'd hate to be the one stuck in the past!