Sione Matautia (St Helens) - Grade C Dangerous Contact - 2 Match Penalty Notice
Konrad Hurrell (St Helens) - Grade C Strikes - 2 Match Penalty Notice
Curtis Sironen (St Helens) - Grade B Dangerous Contact - 1 Match Penalty Notice

Thought Hurrell might have got more tbh.
I`m sure they will all appeal and have a game taken off.

I'm hoping Wilkin quits his pundit job in disgust and officially joins the Saints cheerleading squad. Seems like a win for everybody.

The shoulder charge that sadly resulted in the death of Ackerman was very similar to the one that resulted in Hurrell's red card, apart from Ackerman was carrying the ball at the time.

The incidents I mentioned all happened on Friday night. The harassment of the players and coaching staff was captured on Sky TV, as well as Leeds Rhinos 'behind the scenes' footage, and of course on social media.

The incidents outside the ground have been heavily reported on social media, including one big-brain Saints fan bragging of "filling in" a Leeds fan on Twitter. Numerous people have commented about lodging complaints with St Helens, but I imagine the club, the RFL and IMG will make a combined effort to sweep them under the rug.

Haven't seen the Ackerman one but given Myler was only shaken up you'd tend to think there was a massive element of awful luck involved.

Harassment of players and Rohan, tick, seen the footage.

Assaults on fans outside the ground. Didn't see them and don't do social media but clearly that's out of order. Hadn't realised things had reached this level when making original comments.

Redvee forum is good for a laugh.

Let’s not go OTT about the tackles though. Been punished and dealt with. This is s brutal sport and you simply can’t stop the huge impacts and mistimed tackles. It’s inevitable when people get tired. Hurrell was as gassed as I’ve ever seen as an RL player and he certainly will not have wanted to seriously injure Myler.

Name me a better hooker than James Roby in the superleague era then as Dodds and Welsby yl they would have a lot of NRL clubs chasing them and lets see where your lot come the end of the season

Stupid comparing sides of different era’s. Saints have been the best for last 4 years though competition been very weak imho.
Roby has been the best by a mile. Can do it all and his longevity is remarkable. Not possible to replace him though, and that could be your issue…
Welsby and Dodd are good players, but overhyped imho….

Roby is the best hooker in SL, and Welsby is a real talent. Dodds looks promising, and lets hope he goes more Lomax than Gaskell as he develops.

The bans are about right IMO. Hurrell's was bad but due to fatigue not bad intent, the others were late hits on playmakers. Walters probably saved from a ban because the contact wasn't high. I'm glad those late hits are being penalised - pressuring playmakers is fine, but late hits need to be stamped out. If you didn't know better you might think late shots on playmakers was a deliberate Sts tactic....

We're both lucky it isn't last year's disciplinary - that would have seen double the bans for all concerned and two for Walters as well.

I just read through the redvee thread. Some reasonable posters on there to be fair who are only upset about the Walters no penalty. But some of the stuff spouted is genuinely absurd. There was even someone who claimed that Myler saw Hurrell coming and turned his head to make sure the contact looked worse than it was. Yes, that's exactly how any rational person would react when an 18 stone guy launches themselves at them - "I'd better make sure this catches me on the chin so I get a penalty. I'll be fine and will stay down to milk it."

On a serious note I hope someone has a word with Wilkin. He called Myler a cheat before he could have seen the replay, and didn't properly back down even after it. The game doesn't need inflammatory guff like that from commentators.

You lot have got short memories. Kieron Cunningham kept Roby out of the starting hooker position until he retired from playing. He wouldn't have kept Roby out if the hooker role for 6 seasons, and score about a third more tries (in less games), featured in the Super League Dream Team more times, and voted in as hooker for the "Greatest Ever Super League Team" if Roby was better.

The 2006 St Helens team would destroy the current one. I don't know where people get that the current team is the greatest Super League or Saints team ever. They looked clueless without Roby's leadership when things started to go wrong on Friday.

Spot on OWL.
Wilkin immediately jumped on Myler suggesting he only stayed down so it would get looked at.
Barrie Mac pulled him up on it after seeing a replay.
Wilkin mumbled away but still suggested that players are only staying down so incidents get looked at.
Ridiculous. Incidents should always get looked at to see if there is foul play!

Wilkin is a massive closet Strictly fan and is obviously 'Team Helen'....

I'm a lifelong Leeds fan, but I find the "doing down" of the current Saints team tedious. The facts are: They have won four in a row, they have finished top three out of four times, they have lost a handful of games (some of them when putting out weakened sides) and they have just beaten the Australian champions in Australia, something only the great Wigan side of the 90's could manage. Revisionist blue and amber recollections regarding the standard of the league when Leeds were top dogs don't hold water. There were a few good sides, many average ones, and some absolute dross. Leeds fans need to stop living in the past and focus on now. Rant over.

Why am I living in the past? Because I think Cunningham was far better than Roby as a hooker? His stats prove that.

I'm not denying the current Saints team are by far the best team in the league at the moment, but I do not agree that they are the best English RL team ever, the best Super League era team, or even the best ever Saints team. Compare the 2006 Grand Final winning St Helens Squad against today's and you'll see that man for man they were a better team.

I'm not living in the past, but I'm also not forgetting the past either. I'm also not going to pander to the new Saints fans who truly believe that their current team are unbeatable and the GOATs because they started watching RL last year.

Keep your feet on the ground and do try to be less hysterical. Most posters on here and red vee are generally fair minded. Sculthorpes after match summary along with Wellens was fair and reasonable. It was only one game at the start of a long season. As for Roby without doubt he has been the stand out hooker in the super league era. Both on and off the field, as for Welsby he is still young,potentially he has the talent for a successful career. Unfortunately at the moment he is a bit petulant. Perhaps he should use Roby as a role model. Ref Dodds , have mixed veiws about him. It may have escaped your attention regarding end of the season ,but other teams may have a say as to the position of saints and the rhinos.

I'm making a general point. There is a general trend amongst some Leeds fans to dismiss this Saints team. That said, you are presenting your opinions as facts. You might say the 2006 team was better man for man, but Saints fans might disagree. The facts are: Saints are statistically better than any other side I the history of SL. Are they truly, I don't know, but if they aren't I don’t know who is.

Just had a quick scan through some of the comments. Brilliant. It was Mylers fault Hurrell got sent off. Play acting. It was Myler obstructing Sironen, after he passed the ball. Where was Sironen meant to go? Leeds cheated and it was all the refs fault.

Comparing current teams to former teams is obviously subjective. You can go on forever with endless comparisons, what is undisputed is saints remarkable transformation after the Cunningham failure. Cunningham was a superb player and a decent man it must have been tough to end his saints career in that fashion. Thank goodness Kevin Sinfield managed to avoid that situation.

This St Helens team is the greatest of the super league era. Fact

You can argue against it all you want but you are wrong.

Probably the greatest ever as Wigan won their titles playing against drunks, pit miners and whippet breeders

One or two say that,the majority are in the " we messed up and were not good enough defensively " camp. Our two second rowers have form for yellow cards and should of learned from last year and it was a red.

My particular favourite from the saints site re our short kick offs.

''Put it this way - I'd be very pleased if LEeds decide to spend games against us trying to cheat their way into easy possession like that''

Short kick offs are now cheating

Yeh, a bit like contesting the scrum....

Wigan have won more trophies in history than any other team. Fact. The quality of who they did it against is subjective and not a matter of record. In the same way you could argue saints have won their recent titles in a weak competition with no credible challengers. You can do mental gymnastics and use the super league cut-off, but when that gets rebranded over the coming years it’ll be easier just to use all of history.

These type of dick measuring contests are so tedious. But, Ok yeah, Saints are the greatest and will be until the end of time. Have your lollipop if it makes you feel good.

"When I played the replay back a few times Myler was fairly aware of Hurrell coming in and stepped towards him and released the ball knowing he was going to get impact at a high level. Hurrell himself was very frustrated with the outcome and I don't think it was mean't to be deliberate he's just not that type of player. Most will remember the crash tackle on Johnsone were Hurrell helped him off the floor and asked if he was alright."

The gift that keeps on giving! I was at The Shay the night Konrad ruptured Cameron Ciraldo's pancreas with a big hit so Richie giving him a free shot is either incredibly brave, incredibly stupid or it's just a load of bollox from Redvee again! Hmmmm!

Lol.

You can almost tell who has never played rugby, or any contact sport for that matter, by the ridiculous claims they make.

No-one without a deathwish is going to thrust their chin towards Hurrell's shoulder at speed on purpose. Natural reaction would be to raise the shoulder and protect your face.

I personally don't think Hurrell meant to do it, he just isn't that type of player. But I also know Myler didn't purposefully take the contact either.