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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds" People don’t go skipping all the way there and all the way back to the job centre.'"
No you are right, the blights of society feel aggrieved that they have to leave their sofa.
It's just not fair.
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| Oh good, is this another thread turned in a Damo-fest?
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| He's fanning the flames in the hope it will be...
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| To be fair I didn’t even start it this time. All I said was that there’s a criminal underbelly element to everything in society which was relevant to the article been posted.
Then Batleyrhino just couldn’t help himself and make a remark about my own circumstances. Was I suppose to just leave it at that?
The best line from the whole thread for me comes from G1 -
Quote ="G1"Your issue should be with Damo rather than this mysterious class of people you believe exist that do not want to contribute to society.'"
Oh and LFC comes out with this classic -
Quote ="LFCRhino"No most of them probably get a taxi payed for by the tax payer the lazy c4nts
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The above statement is typical of so many others on here and just goes to prove that most people get their information from (not everyone) Tory propaganda when it comes to the long term unemployed.
The long term unemployed (including myself) are nothing but one of many scapegoats for a society to blame its problems on.
At the end of the day people are a lot more friendly towards me when we’re not treading on this issue..
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| Quote ="batleyrhino" ... we don't have a Tory government, we have a coalition...'"
OK, a Tory coalition then.
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| We have a Conservative & Liberal Democrat coalition. How could we possibly have a one party coalition as you imply above, that is a contradiction in terms.
Are you suggesting that when one party (any party doesn't matter which) gains a majority share of the vote, they shouldn't be entitled to try to form some kind of government, even if it is a coalition one? That wouldn't be very democratic would it?
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds" Snip '"
So this CV you have actually turns out to be you doing a few "good turns" for a local shop keeper, and posting on the internet. What are you, a "boy scout"? If you were serious about working, you would go and help out at your local Marie Curie or Sue Ryder shop or such like. That is real voluntary work, not putting a couple of tins back on the shelves at the local corner shop.
Once again, your post stinks of "I can't find a job that is suitable for me" when what you really mean is "I can't find a job that I would find interesting enough, or pays enough, which translates to "I can't find a job which isn't below me". You are not interested in work, only sympathy for a situation you can't be bothered to get out of.
With regard to the job offer from Serge, are you really saying you couldn't contact him and arrange to go see him to discuss starting work because you didn't have your glasses? What rubbish, you still seemed to be able to post on here, so you were hardly mortally wounded.
Nice to see that in your own words "people should contribute for their benefits" only to go on and confirm that you won't do so unless it's on your terms, and that anything more than 10 hours would be "slave labour". You really are laughable.
Finally I'm sure that people don't go skipping to the job centre, those who are genuinely looking for work will probably feel an amount of shame (completely unwarranted IMO) about their circumstances, whilst others seem to want to wear it as a "badge of honour". It would be interesting to see people skipping to the job centre as many of the ones who go to the one in Pontefract are significantly overweight and could use the exercise...
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| i don't consider it a tory issue as the last goverment had the same problem. the issue is peoples attitudes.
we all know people who simply don't want to work and are happy to stay home and collect benefits.
make anyone who has been claiming long term go out and do something for there giro.
as for damo the goverment offers all sorts of free courses for umemployed. get your forklift licence, get soem skills training.
i would rather go work at macdonalds or burger king than be on the dole, however its easier to stay at home and plead poverty and woe is me all day
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| What makes anyone think that Nick Clegg is politically to the left of David Cameron? I've seen precious little evidence of it so far. As for Cameron, his wobble in the face of a pointless (and unfairly applied) 1 billion saving in child benefit suggests it's going to be interesting when Osborne is piledriving another 82 billion worth of cuts in 12 days time.
Only the Con-Dems could introduce a populist levy on bankers then immediately offset it's effect (and more) with massive cuts in corporation tax at the expense of investment allowances for small and medium size companies. Genius.
When I say pointless, it probably wasn't, as finally breaking the right to universal benefits is probably also coming down the tracks. They still are and always will be the nasty party.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"If you were serious about working, you would go and help out at your local Marie Curie or Sue Ryder shop or such like. That is real voluntary work, not putting a couple of tins back on the shelves at the local corner shop.
Once again, your post stinks of "I can't find a job that is suitable for me" when what you really mean is "I can't find a job that I would find interesting enough, or pays enough, which translates to "I can't find a job which isn't below me". You are not interested in work, only sympathy for a situation you can't be bothered to get out of.'"
I tried posting something very similar twice, both times with my post somehow going missing or being deleted.
If you are on the dole, why not go do some voluntary work for charities, or for one of the many hospices in Leeds. Surely this will give you a sense of pride, a sense of having done something worthwhile for your money, whilst helping out a number of people who's are undoubtedly in a worse position than you!
There is plenty of agency work out there, particularly in warehouses, the truth is that alot of the long term unemployed see this sort of work as below them.... I'm not saying this is the case for all the unemployed, but if you are fit and able, generally there is work available, if you are willing to get your hands dirty. There are a section of benefit dwellers who simply will never work - or who wont be pro-active, they simply sit back and expect the job of their dreams to come and land on their lap, and if it doesn't, they'll keep taking the public coin.
I am absolutely all for a benefit system, but it needs to be much tighter. At the end of the day, if you are fit to work, there will be a job somewhere for you to do, the benefit system should be there as short term aid, not to be relied upon long term.
It's all about pride and values. I would sooner clean cars, windows, pick up litter, become a cleaner, stack shelves than be on the dole - And that has nothing to do with politics, simply personal pride and principles.
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| Quote ="tvoc" They still are and always will be the nasty party.'"
Hopelessly out of their depth party would be just as accurate. Like many of the upper middle and real upper class, they talk a far better game than they are ever capable of playing.
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| whats all this got to do with Wilf Rosenberg being suspected of being in the Israeli mafia?
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| Quote ="Superted"I tried posting something very similar twice, both times with my post somehow going missing or being deleted.
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Not deleted and not in Trash Can - you must just be crap at posting
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"whats all this got to do with Wilf Rosenberg being suspected of being in the Israeli mafia?'"
The Israeli Mafia would have looked after Damo if he'd have only made the meeting. Running diamonds was beneath him.
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| By the way Damo, you missed the last intake of aircraft cleaners at Leeds Bradford Airport a few months ago, evening and night shifts, 30 to 40 hours a week, no experience needed, 50% above NMW - have a look at your JCP and see if they are recruiting again with Easyjet moving to LBA.
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| christ when I was off work with my knee that was one of the most horrible & boring periods of my life, I missed working
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| When the company I worked for closed the division I was in I was made redundant it took me two weeks to find another job.
Just thought I'd share that with you guys.
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"gissa job'"
have you ever thought of pm'ing ramrod?
surely he could clearly offer you something out in dubai
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| Quote ="Jonesy's a Legend"have you ever thought of pm'ing ramrod?
surely he could clearly offer you something out in dubai
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You wouldn't want to go to Dubai
It looks too much like Halifax
Or at least the bit that Ramrod can see when he looks out of his toilet window does.
Did I ban him ?
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| Quote ="McLaren_Field"You wouldn't want to go to Dubai
It looks too much like Halifax'"
..and they don't have any internet access. FACT
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| Quote ="McLaren_Field"It looks too much like Halifax
Or at least the bit that Ramrod can see when he looks out of his toilet window does.'"
i would love to google his mansion though wouldn't you?
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| Quote ="Jonesy's a Legend"i would love to google his mansion though wouldn't you?'"
I did, thats him in the middle trying to go native
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| Quote ="McLaren_Field"I did, thats him in the middle trying to go native
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he does look a bit out of place
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| Quote ="Superted"Spot on batley! there is loads of agency work out therequote
I got myself on an agency and got work in a bakery the next day earning money I couldn't dream of. Now i've got a perminant contract earning even better money. They werent bothered about past experience, qualifications etc, they wanted to see effort, good communication skills and a willingness to learn then consider taking you on if you apply.
Agency work turned out to be a great thing for me and many others,
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| There was this program I remember watching about immigration and migrant workers in Kent. This bloke came over from Croatia, moved in with his sister who already lived here and got a job ‘the next day’. Granted it was back-braking work picking butternut squash 8 hours a day but a job all the same.
There are plenty of jobs out there it’s just no-one wants to do them.
Both my daughters are doing their A-levels, both of them have part time jobs. Most of their friends have part time jobs.
Anyone (and I really do mean anyone) can get a job if they really want one.
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