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| Quote ="fc baldy"And so would we....we have already played 3 this season in Nicklas,Bowden and Jamie Ellis and that is 3 more than Agar ever did...he just didnt play the young ones and switched players rd all over the place.Kent and Crooks have also been part of the 19 man squad and have a young winger in Lineham who is looking very good.'"
That's great. My comments weren't in any way meant as a criticism of Hull's development of young players, merely a reflection that I'd prefer Leeds to develop new & hopefully even better ones. Far as I'm concerned how FC go about pursuing success is entirely a matter for them and their fans.
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| Quote ="El Diablo"Well, I stand by my earlier posts, I'd have been happy to have him back, but not devastated not to.
Whatever the offers (salary, other perks, contract lengths) obviously Hull made more sense for him, and presumably their offer made sense for them. Win win.
I think he's a cracking player (still would rather have JJB - which I said well before he signed for Hull before anyone starts, check the thread) and I agree with Hull fans saying it is a statement of intent/ambition from them.
Well done to Hull and Ellis, I can only wish him well after his performances for Leeds, and I think it'll be a good signing for a club that seems at the moment to be heading in the right direction after a disappointing few years.'"
All of this.
Would've liked to have seen Ellis play for Leeds again but possibly more for nostalgia. Hopefully this means the club are putting alot of faith on Clarkson and Pitts et al.
Good signing for Hull, I only wish him well and he's sure to get a great reception when they visit Headingley. He could be their Morley-type signing and have a big impact on the club.
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| Indeed, this should be a great shot in the arm for Clarkson et al that Darth and the club have faith in them to develop and step up.
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"As far as balance goes I think Griffin is a better signing for our squad than Ellis would be in the back row.'"
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| No, he's quite serious. Can see where he's coming from too.
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| IMV this saga is comparable to those surrounding Harris & Morley & we did ok without either of those.
I expect the same will happen this time with(out) Ellis.
He's a good player but not a matchwinning player. He makes few mistakes, does a vast amount of effective defensive work but isn't really a gamebreaker.
As others have said his move is good for the competition but doesn't harm us.
It means that GH's salary structure remains intact to the benefit of the entire team & squad.
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| What an absolute @rse Frosties has made of himself all over this site.
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| Fantastic signing of one of the world's best players ever (as predicted on this forum) who has been ripping it up in the NRL and dominating the Australians for the past 3 years. Trust in the sleeve who yet again has pulled another one out of the hat at a very reasonable cost as per usual, and in keeping with the brilliantly managed salary cap structure in place at the club. Kudos to Ellis for once again placing trophy-winning opportunities ahead of a big salary as he always does just like Sinny and all the boys who love the club, and what a legend he is and how great it'll be to see him in the rhinos blue and amber again where he belongs and wants to be and I know this because I have insider knowledge and know his dad and I know his agent will always get thrashed in contract negotiations when he comes up against the legendary GH.
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Eh? What!
He's signed for Hull?
Ellis is a rubbish signing who'll do nowt at Hull and he'll win nowt - FACT! Good luck to him cos he'll need it there - END OF! He's too old anyway, crocked, past his best, the rhinos don't need him, don't really want him and are better off without him. Hasn't been that brilliant in the NRL anyway - overrated if you ask me - and his club there lose more games when he plays for them than when he doesn't and they win more games when he doesn't play for them than when he does - FACT! Griffin and Moore are better than him - END OF! and fetch more to the club and Hauraki can only get better -FACT! Well done GH for sticking to your guns and not upsetting the beautifully-crafted salary structure in place at the club which Sinny and all the boys swear by because they are in the business of winning trophies and being loyal to the rhinos unlike Ellis who is just looking for one last huge payout before he retires and he's got it the greedy steward of the bar. Oh, and his agent is a pillock as well and good on GH for not doing business with him.
I'm not devastated. FACT. END OF!
Well said... ETC.
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| Wow, its taken 31 pages of postings to say that you didn't really want Ellis. Priceless!!
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| Hull fans have no right to come on and 'gloat' about this. We're the wrong team to try and get into a d!ck measuring contest with.
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| Quote ="Sibbs Rhinos"Hull fans have no right to come on and 'gloat' about this. We're the wrong team to try and get into a d!ck measuring contest with.'"
Quite right. You'll always win when it comes to being the biggest dicks!!
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Was that actually offered to Ellis? or was that what was requested in talks?
Like I said earlier, from a reliable source, Leeds never got round to actually offering a contract to Ellis.
Maybe they felt because of the contract length it was not worth pursuing? Hardly here or there really though.'"
the story goes that we made a provisional offer with the terms being over a 2 year deal. With the recent spate of injuries and age factor that was the fair deal. We did offer the option of a third year on Leeds request. Hull offered three im led to believe but then his agent started haggling and we advised him that our offer was the only offer
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| I wish Ellis good luck and think he will do well for them. But we had his best years and now IMO with JJB, Delaney and Ablett we have the best back 3 in SL at present and with reasonable cover and a couple of youngsters coming through we need not fret!
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| Quote ="21-12"Quote ="Tony Soprano"As far as balance goes I think Griffin is a better signing for our squad than Ellis would be in the back row.'"
Are you joking?'"
Can you read?
The key bits are "as far as balance goes" and "for our squad"...for the last couple of years Leeds' squad has been heavy on backrowers and a bit light at prop (but have got away with it thanks to the presence of JP).
Griffin is playing very well and has considerably less mileage on the clock than JP.
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| Quote ="Juan Cornetto"I wish Ellis good luck and think he will do well for them. But we had his best years and now IMO with JJB, Delaney and Ablett we have the best back 3 in SL at present and with reasonable cover and a couple of youngsters coming through we need not fret!'"
Good post. I think JJB has turned into a quality player now that he has stopped giving so many penalties away.
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| I'm not going to make it like I didn't want him, I was all for signing him. But the Hull fans are reacting like this buy is a guaranteed tickets to all finals in the near future. They have a long way to go before they can start putting their hands on trophies and making one good signing won't automatically make them challengers, however it starts them off on the right road.
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| Quote ="Sibbs Rhinos"I'm not going to make it like I didn't want him, I was all for signing him. But the Hull fans are reacting like this buy is a guaranteed tickets to all finals in the near future. They have a long way to go before they can start putting their hands on trophies and making one good signing won't automatically make them challengers, however it starts them off on the right road.'" You could have posted earlier, i've already booked hotels and tickets for wembley and old trafford.
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Why are alot of your fans getting y when asked genuine questions and getting into hysterics when a comment is made saying they didn't really want or need Ellis?
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| Quote ="Sibbs Rhinos"Why are alot of your fans getting y when asked genuine questions and getting into hysterics when a comment is made saying they didn't really want or need Ellis?'"
Look, we are just pleased that we are in a position to compete for top level signatures and maybe this is the start of something bigger than we're used to.
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| what a brilliant post from kieth swiftcorn im not getting into any argument about gareth ellis but this made me laugh
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| Hull have got themselves a cracking player. Good luck to them and him.
We did OK when Harris and Morley didn't come back. I reckon we'll do OK again, especially wit the likes of Ablett and JJB in the back row.
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| I wanted him back, of course I did, but I said when the idea first arose I wouldn't be breaking the bank (or our salary cap structure) to sign him. He will be 31 when he arrives back and has always been an all action player. He will go down a treat with the Hull fans providing he can stay fit, you cannot dfail to like a player that puts his body on the line so often as Gareth Ellis. They really need to sort their structure out though IMO, haven't seen much of them this season but if Richard Horne is still involved in organising their play then they will be a step behind the top 3 or 4 already.
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