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| Obviously I don't know for sure if he said it not, but regardless of whether he did the whole 'trial by internet' thing is becoming a bit of a joke now.
If he said it then there's going to be some explaining to do, I seriously hope he didn't.
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| Who are the allegations from? Saints? The Ref? If its from fans of opposition teams or the public the RFL have lost the plot.
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| Quote ="ls28_rhino"Obviously I don't know for sure if he said it not, but regardless of whether he did the whole 'trial by internet' thing is becoming a bit of a joke now.
If he said it then there's going to be some explaining to do, I seriously hope he didn't.'"
its the blowing a kiss thats as damning as whether or not what he said it leads you into believing he did. hope he doesnt get charged as i could see an 8 match ban
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"Who are the allegations from? Saints? The Ref? If its from fans of opposition teams or the public the RFL have lost the plot.'"
Surely they would only react to allegations from the opposition or the ref. I'm not a Leeds fan but I sincerely hope he hasn't let himself down again. If so, he really needs some counselling.
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| Quote ="HAILESY"its the blowing a kiss thats as damning as whether or not what he said it leads you into believing he did. hope he doesnt get charged as i could see an 8 match ban'"
Yeah that's what I said when people asked my opinion on it, even if he didn't say it - it doesn't look good with him blowing a kiss leading up to it.
I wouldn't be surprised to see his ban from last doubled, 10 games if he's found guilty which I sincerely hope not. They would need solid evidence of the incident, a colleague of mine has just watched the vine replay of it and said no way can you say for certain what is said and he isn't a rugby fan.
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| Quote ="HAILESY"its the blowing a kiss thats as damning as whether or not what he said it leads you into believing he did. hope he doesnt get charged as i could see an 8 match ban'"
That's the biggest pile of bull$hit about the whole thing! What has blowing a kiss at somebody got to do with being homophobic. When did blowing a kiss become a gay slur?
is this homophobic?
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"Who are the allegations from? Saints? The Ref? If its from fans of opposition teams or the public the RFL have lost the plot.'"
Are you for real?
If so, I'd suggest that it's you who has "lost the plot". Anyone who finds what Hardaker allegedly said or did offensive can lodge a valid complaint. Perhaps you'd like to see the law changed?
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| I think it's vital to know who has made the allegation. It may be the RFL acting on its own.
If not the accuser or accusers need to be identified to see if they have an hidden agenda .
Blowing a kiss was a bit childish , but in the grand scheme of things no big deal.
The whole thing is starting to look like a witch hunt.
If they hit him with a ban I think he would be away to to Aussie land pretty damm quick. I for one would not blame him.
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| The RFL aren't even publicising who/what it is they're investigating officially so finding out who made those allegations will be nigh on impossible.
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Are you for real?
If so, I'd suggest that it's you who has "lost the plot". Anyone who finds what Hardaker allegedly said or did offensive can lodge a valid complaint. Perhaps you'd like to see the law changed?'"
It's a known fact that the law is sometimes an ass.
I see things on a day to day basis that I could complain about ,but I like to live my life in the real world.
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| I think the RFL start looking at the inept refs mistakes than looking at a player blowing a kiss, just about right for our game!
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| what's the big deal about blowing a kiss? Really?
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"what's the big deal about blowing a kiss? Really?'"
Calling somebody a puff as well not good with his record REALLY
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| Quote ="Backwoodsman"I think it's vital to know who has made the allegation. It may be the RFL acting on its own.
If not the accuser or accusers need to be identified to see if they have an hidden agenda .
Blowing a kiss was a bit childish , but in the grand scheme of things no big deal.
The whole thing is starting to look like a witch hunt.
If they hit him with a ban I think he would be away to to Aussie land pretty damm quick. I for one would not blame him.'"
The problem is he has previous, so has put himself in a position to be a more likely witch-hunt victim. If JP or Ablett had done it, people's reaction would have purely been 'That's unusual for him. why's he doing that?' Unfortunately when you have previous, as ZH has (down to his own ignorance and stupidity) you leave yourself open to being the witch that is hunted by the public.
If you feel you have been unfairly punished before for something wrong which you did at work, surely you make sure you don't do anything again that could be construed as being the same sort of thing? He would have been better sarcastically applauding or even giving him a little shove than making a gesture that (because of his 'previous') can give his detractors a new noose to hang him with.
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| Quote ="Rommel"Calling somebody a puff as well
not good with his record
REALLY'"
You don't know that, that's a wild accusation. With out all the tech and live audio, players statements, refs reports, you are just guessing and or trollin.
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| Jeez (am I allowed to say that?!) I don't know why I've just wasted my time looking at the incident. In my opinion it is impossible to be 100% certain what the word was - other than it's one syllable. If Hardaker cops a ban on the back of that then there's no way the rflwill ever get any of my hard earned again. The incident only occurred due to Flanaghan trying to twist Hardakers ankles behind each other - which (surprise surprise) was completely missed by Silverwood.
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| Quote ="AJC"Jeez (am I allowed to say that?!) I don't know why I've just wasted my time looking at the incident. In my opinion it is impossible to be 100% certain what the word was - other than it's one syllable. If Hardaker cops a ban on the back of that then there's no way the rflwill ever get any of my hard earned again. The incident only occurred due to Flanaghan trying to twist Hardakers ankles behind each other - which (surprise surprise) was completely missed by Silverwood.'"
It was picked up by the match review panel but decided no charge was appropriate
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| Eight game ban for the serial miscreant if found guilty of homophobic abuse this time around.
If found guilty, one wonders if the Leeds club will continue to stick by and mollycoddle this loose cannoned brat? If they do, then it's safe to conclude that moral/ethical standards at the club have nosedived.
They've sacked/moved players on in the past for far less.
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| If blowing a kiss and calling someone an undefinable word that may begin with the letter P (but the rest of the word is subject to contention) is reason for a Rugby League player to get investigated for wrongdoing then I seriously have to doubt my commitment to this sport.
I like RL because of its pure unadulterated aggression, skilfulness and passion that each and every player gives to the sport. To have this diluted by these pathetic sideshows annoys the hell out of me.
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| Talking of laws, lets get the human rights act brigade on board. Zac could plead it would infringe his rights if he was not allowed to blow the odd kiss to somebody .
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| Quote ="nantwichexile"My god man..check your spell checker: electronic or organic'"
But even with incorrect spellings his messages make more sense than yours do
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| Quote ="William Eve"Eight game ban for the serial miscreant if found guilty of homophobic abuse this time around.
If found guilty, one wonders if the Leeds club will continue to stick by and mollycoddle this loose cannoned brat? If they do, then it's safe to conclude that moral/ethical standards at the club have nosedived.
They've sacked/moved players on in the past for far less.'"
10 NRL clubs have spoken with the lad for the future. How does that fit in with your agenda?
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| No tinted glasses, bias or witch hunt from me here, but if it's found to be true that he's said what he's accused of, it isn't looking good for him.
He's an incredible talent and I'd love him at Wire but if he was a Wire player I'd still want a harsh punishment and want him out of the team altogether. It's damaging the games reputation at a time when we are trying to expand, and needs stamping out.
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| Quote ="William Eve"Eight game ban for the serial miscreant if found guilty of homophobic abuse this time around.
If found guilty, one wonders if the Leeds club will continue to stick by and mollycoddle this loose cannoned brat? If they do, then it's safe to conclude that moral/ethical standards at the club have nosedived.
They've sacked/moved players on in the past for far less.'"
I wish that sometimes, just sometimes, you'd actually post what you really thought instead of trying to get a rise.
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