Positives - we are third in the table without ever getting into top gear - things can only get better from here

Wow, do you ever do anything other than turn everything into a pop at our fan base?

You're a Saints fan so it doesn't concern you but..........

.......sometimes I take money from morons who know nothing about rugby.

Positives -

We're winning when not playing well
Buderus is looking a good investment
Defence is rock solid

Negatives -

We give too many penalties away
Not enough go-forward in the team at the moment
Play looks to one-dimensional
Squad looks a little thin

cant argue with that

We've still got the best defence in the competition, that's a good platform to build on for the rest of the season.

Is this where we roll out the bit about being better when the sun comes out and the tracks firm up a bit?



Goal-line defence has for the most part been outstanding.

The negative is the lack of structure with the ball in hand, particularly under pressure. Still too much waiting for a miracle play.

You're behind the times Mr Gilder, we can only win when it's wet these days

At the risk fo sounding so 206, maybe we'll see the best of Donald when the pitches dry out a bit

The kick against Cas may have been a fluke, but McGuire has created loads of tries for Leeds through his kicking game on the last tackle.

He's one of the few players in the team I'd be happy receiving the ball on the 6th tackle. Don't know what your problem is here.

Was it a last tackle play when he scored his second try on Friday?

Stop it.

Facts have no place in any discussion of a player's merits on here. If you and Trimalchio keep bringing them up you're only going to expose Loz's lack of knowledge, you big bullies.

right place!! right time!! great reflexes and great hands for both trys!! made even more impressive due to the conditions. one of his fine qualities for me is that he's one of those players who can make something from nothing!!

His problem is he enjoys going but really doesn't have a clue what he is watching.

Thats was also a touch lucky, although I would say that clsoe to the line McGuire is one of the best options on the 5th

If it hadn't have got the deflection it would have probably have ended up in the in-goal area, from where we could have forced a repeat set. Yes, the try itself had an element of luck, but even without it it was a good kick.

Hands up all those who thought that was on the last?

Well you'd all be wrong then, it was on the fourth.

Penalty given away by Ferres trying to 'turtle' Peacock to the usual outcry from Stevo, 'he was just trying to complete the tackle' in his own inimitable fashion.

1st drive from the tap by Jones-Buchanan, 2nd drive by Leuluai from Sinfield's flat ball, 3rd drive from Senior almost to the line, 4th, McGuire deliberately (right David?) rebounding it off Faumuina's leg to pick up and score unopposed.

I don't have a problem with McGuire receiving the ball on the last tackle.

Oh and where abouts was I basing the quality of a player's season on one game? So in response to your statement, I guess that's not me then.

In future be quiet.

Why does he?

He is 100% correct

[uYOU[/u based on your opinions on Friday night

[uI[/u based mine on the season so far


ive missed about 4 minutes of action so far this season
(a wee at St Helens and a drink against Salford)

You're correct in what you say. However, by basing my opinion on this one game shows what he can do on the last tackle and I therefore have evidence. You havn't backed up your statement which was something along the lines of 'I wouldn't let McGuire anywhere near the ball on the last' with any evidence.

Negatives- Kicking game has been poor all season

We don't know what we are doing close to the line (relying on a Burrow, Buderus break or an offload for Webb)

We don't have any moves at all! It is one out rugby or pass it along the line and see what happens! (Saints run at pace with dummy runners, passes inside and neat little chips, even Cas looked better drilled in attack than us on Friday night. Not to mention Harlequins and Salford!)

Positives- Buderus gets better with every game.

Mate, when mcguire put that kick in I jumped up and shouted at the TV ''WHAT THE F*CK ARE YOU DOING'' i felt like a right idiot when we got the penalty and won, but my instinct in the moment was it was the wrong option so you're right about being lucky.

From where hall got tackled we should have shifted it to sinfield in the middle for a go at the drop. Mcguire's play in that situtaion was wrong even though it did come off.

No, I just believe that it is ok if he has the ball on the last tackle.

And I take it you have no evidence.

So to recap, I'm basing my judgement on evidence and you aren't, get it?

HTH

Whilst I agree we should have gone for drop goal, entirely. I also have to say that anybody watching on the telly and commenting can really not comment confidently. You had to be there to see what McGuire was attempting.

I have since watched it on the telly and it really does just look like an aimless kick. At the game, although still appearing wrong, you could see exactly what he was doing, who to, and why.