Thought when I saw this arguing over last couple of days, how anybody can doubt that Kevin Brown and Tommy Leuluai wouldn't have improved us ten fold is beyond me. Both miles better tha we have.

Brown currently tearing Brisbane apart, and no doubt Leuluai wil stand out tomorrow. Brown is everything we needed, always been under rated.

Brown could be the man to get Wire over the GF hurdle this year. he is exactly the type of player we are crying out for right now.

So the money then?

What about it?

We aren't going to be signing anybody at this time of year. Probably won't be until around Round 10 you start hearing the first movements clubs are making for 2018.

Not sure who the club bank with.

Leeds Building Society maybe?

As I warned before hetherington has right royalty cocked up our season already by not recruiting correctly went to cas last night and could not believe that we could be so far behind a team with castlefords resources unbelievable.
Hetherington has bled the club filling the playing squad with cheap aussies and second rate youngsters kept a coach in position far too long allowed rhino royalty like sinfield to exit the club.
Sinfield is the answer to the coaching problem whatever it takes time for caddick to intervene if he is still interested.
Please no history lessons or excuses.

As has been mentioned on another thread, Hetherington is a business man and as long as Leeds Rugby are in the black he's going nowhere.

The poor performances we were subjected to last year actually had a positive effect on the bottom line, both home and away attendances were up.

Correct he's in the business of looking after himself

Sinfield has stated many times that he has no interest in moving into coaching. Just because you want it to happen doesn't mean it's going to.

On the basis of what?

This.. there was talk of him joining the coaching staff ..Mac said he was offered...Sinfield also said in an interview when he announced his retirement from Yorkshire Carnegie that he would like a dual job that would help them and the Rhinos which made me think maybe he wanted to be a kicking coach...but I also got feeling he only said the Yorkshire Carnegie bit to be kind to Bryan Redpath.

His recent skills is in business management and his new role at RFL suits him...would have thought he would want to see that through..

Neither btw would I expect to see JP who also did not want to coach. Although not coach at HullKR ..football manager...he has big input...he was supposedly behind dropping Albert Kelly...I understand the reasoning but at that critical stage...they might still have been in SL.

If you want a player as coach then I would go for Rob Burrow..for me played bigger part in U16s success in 2014 and 2015 both seasons going undefeated.. His influence made them play with lot of creative flair....maybe though too close to current squad.

Sinny is too decent to take maccas job from him however imo if it became available would take the position it's his destiny also would make hetherington popular again hard task though maybe better for sinny to wait a few years whilst the old guard retire take it now and the talent is not available at the minute.

I agree with you on Sinny being too decent....However, the job he was offered was not to replace Mac but to work alongside him in some capacity...or least that what i understood. As for coaching in the future..don't think he will....he is a perfectionist , as a player he made many sacrifices to get to where he was including missing family events...his kids still young..He would not want to coach a mediocre Leeds side..he would want the best..he would throw everything at the job in order to do so....Even though he loves the club can't see him putting his kids through that again.

Who are you? Darth Vader?

It's not his destiny, he's said he's not interested - end of conversation. Sinfield has gone, get over it.

Cunningham at Saints is a perfect example of why we don't want a recent ex-player to come back into the fold. Sinfield has too much sense to do this, hopefully Peacock does too.

We will see bacon butty

We need a coach with experience, whether that be at the top level or as an assistant. Just look at Cunningham at Saints, even Powell when he took the Leeds job, it takes time to become a good coach, and we need someone from outside the club to come in and rebuild us.

Why when we spend full salary cap is our squad so weak
IMO it is unbalanced with no leadership and direction expensive underperforming players directed by young inexpensive inexperienced players it can't work problem now with the system is it can take 2 to 3 years including this to turn around
Start now with new leadership needs to come from above.

we must be miles off the cap. if we have spent it all peter ridsdale must be in charge of finance

Every last penny will be being pinched from every area to build the new stands.

Noticed prices creeping up around the ground? The cheaper material / design of the off field gear? The playing fields at kirkstall left and not sorted?

Unless someone with a bucket of cash turns up and offers a Carnegie style deal for the stands get used to this for a while.

Mind you I SAY stands, only the downgraded north will be built.

The club has been penny pinching throughout Macs reign.To be fair to the guy, he has never had the luxury of bringing in big names, the club hasn't signed one since Buderus at the turn of this decade.

2016 the worst season the club has endured in recent memory and we bring in 2 championship projects, unbelievable.

Segeyaro and Briscoe?

It's no longer possible to buy your way out of trouble due to a dwindling salary cap, a broken transfer market with little movement and a distinct lack of quality players available. These conditions have prevailed for quite some time. In fact, Leeds as one of the top clubs have benefited from those stagnant conditions during the last decade as it's nigh on impossible for other clubs to catch up quickly and compete.

I don't believe Leeds are in danger of doing a Bradford, but they may well be looking at a longer transition period than originally anticipated. It may be quite some time until they are consistent Top 4 title contenders again. The quickest route back is to unearth academy talent but it's gone a bit stale at the club on that front in recent years.

Good luck with the likes of Golding, Sutcliffe, Lilley and Co but they don't inspire me with any confidence about the future direction Leeds are heading in.

You are right about the academy. From being the ansolute best in superleague at producing talent we are now second division at best! i believe its a major contributor to out current problems. Someone took their eye off the ball and rested on their laurels in that respect