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| We clearly wanted some tackling practice.
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| Quote ="Backwoodsman"I am not up to speed with all the available stats, but our fifty per cent completion rate was shocking.
Question 1. Was that rate the lowest we have had.
: : : 2 have we ever won with a similar completion rate.'"
Opta don't report team completion rates at least not via the Super League website so the information you seek is not readily available.
I presume you got the 50% from the SL Fulltime show on Sky (?) - a word of caution there - excluding the difficult to verify completion rates of the other eight figures they gave (Breaks, Offloads, Penalties and Errors) only 2 remained consistent with the SL website by the next morning.
Some may like to swear by their findings but the inconsistencies remain a concern for me.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Opta don't report team completion rates at least not via the Super League website so the information you seek is not readily available.
I presume you got the 50% from the SL Fulltime show on Sky (?) - a word of caution there - excluding the difficult to verify completion rates of the other eight figures they gave (Breaks, Offloads, Penalties and Errors) only 2 remained consistent with the SL website by the next morning.
Some may like to swear by their findings but the inconsistencies remain a concern for me.'"
Thanks for the information , you are right my information was from the SL full time show. Although watching the game I could not believe how many times we turned the ball over. Either with penalties or knock ons,so it seemed our completion rate was even worse at the time. I have not bothered to join in with the post match verbal joustings with the cas fans, as everybody sometimes needs a little time in the sun. Obviously not literally judging by the weather at cas. Unfortunately for them they will get what's due to them when they come to HQ. hopefully with chase getting a good clattering .
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| Quote ="JoshyyCas"What is 2.12pm on a 24 hour clock?'"
What's 18 championships divided by 3?
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| Quote ="Clearwing"In fairness to Kirke he made twice the metres with one drive more this week.
Unless I've read the table wrong and it's seven metres from 62 carries.'"
I was aiming it at the poster above my post
But yes, Kirke made 9m/c this week, which was the best by a forward on either team.
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| Quote ="MattyLeeds"Quote ="JoshyyCas"What is 2.12pm on a 24 hour clock?'"
What's 18 championships divided by 3?'"
Same as the average number of fingers on the hand of a Cas person
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| Having watched the SL fulltime the saddest part of the Chase "tackle" was the complete lack of reaction of Hardakers team mates. Compare and contrast with the Saints players when Cross challenged Wellens.
Had our boys piled in instead of meekly standing by and watching our full back get knocked out might the woefully inept Roby have handled it differently in the aftermath to a dust up?
A decent set of forwards should protect their full back. Ours should be a bit ashamed this week after that.
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| Quote ="G1"Having watched the SL fulltime the saddest part of the Chase "tackle" was the complete lack of reaction of Hardakers team mates. Compare and contrast with the Saints players when Cross challenged Wellens.
Had our boys piled in instead of meekly standing by and watching our full back get knocked out might the woefully inept Roby have handled it differently in the aftermath to a dust up?
A decent set of forwards should protect their full back. Ours should be a bit ashamed this week after that.'"
The body language in that second half and especially at that point of the game, was they had given in and were well and truly knackered.
Not an excuse, as I agree wtih you, but think that was why it never happened.
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| Quote ="The Eagle"Quote ="MattyLeeds"Quote ="JoshyyCas"What is 2.12pm on a 24 hour clock?'"
What's 18 championships divided by 3?'"
Same as the average number of fingers on the hand of a Cas person'"
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| Does the muted reaction from the Leeds players imply they agreed with Roby's view that the Chase challenge was hard but fair ?
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| Quote ="tvoc"Does the muted reaction from the Leeds players imply they agreed with Roby's veiw that the Chase challenge was hard but fair ?'"
Well considering the running in with regards the clarkson/mcshane incident with Gilmour, and no punches thrown at that stage, I would suggest otherwise.
Difference of course Leeds were on a roll at that point and clearly had momentum.
When the Hardaker incident happened they were on the back foot and had no momentum.
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| I think in both cases the players had the WCC at the back of their minds - obviously they don't want to do anything stupid and pick up a 2 match ban.
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| Quote ="MattyLeeds"I think in both cases the players had the WCC at the back of their minds - obviously they don't want to do anything stupid and pick up a 2 match ban.'"
I'm sure that would have stopped Barry Mac.
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| Quote ="tigertot"I'm sure that would have stopped Barry Mac.'"
If we have forwards that avoid piling in when piling in is called for because they're worried about a ban in 2 games time then that might explain why we got a bit bullied on Sunday.
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| If the Bash Brothers would have been on the park, different story.
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| Blackburn had SAS, we had the FAF! That team had a tough set of forwards.
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"If the Bash Brothers would have been on the park, different story.'"
Very likely
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| God are u lot still making excuses up about getting beat by cas.move on u were out muscled by at times 12 men and hardaker is fine hes even changed his tune on his twitter account from getting hit with an arm to it being a shoulder now. Wonder if this would still be being talked about if leeds had won i doubt it.
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| You don't like? Then don't look. Eeejit.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Does the muted reaction from the Leeds players imply they agreed with Roby's view that the Chase challenge was hard but fair ?'"
If they did looks like they were as wrong as Roby.
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| It can happen.
Appears the mist has even cleared from around Hardaker's own close up view of what hit him.
Chase at least showed some concern for his felled opponent, perhaps that's what saved him from a shoeing - not that a battle raging around Hardaker would have done him any good.
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| Quote ="tvoc"It can happen.
Appears the mist has even cleared from around Hardaker's own close up view of what hit him.
Chase at least showed some concern for his felled opponent, perhaps that's what saved him from a shoeing - not that a battle raging around Hardaker would have done him any good.'"
Might have forced the referee to make the correct decision in the aftermath though, which might have benefited Leeds rather than Castlefords' next two opponents.
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| It might have equally influenced the referee to send those players seeking to take the law in to their own hands instead of the original perpetrator. Afterall Roby had adjudged Hardaker to have knocked on in what he appeared to rule as a legitimate tackle.
If you choose to roll that dice then you also have to live with the potential consequences. Supposing there had been a mass brawl - Leeds might have only had Ablett, Kirke and Bailey available for selection next week.
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| Quote ="blinkstudios"God are u lot still making excuses up about getting beat by cas.move on u were out muscled by at times 12 men and hardaker is fine hes even changed his tune on his twitter account from getting hit with an arm to it being a shoulder now. Wonder if this would still be being talked about if leeds had won i doubt it.
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What are you reading? The last page or so before you wrote that was centred on Leeds' pack not getting involved enough. Not really excuse making is it?
I'd say the attitudes of the 2 packs could be seen as an explanation though, wouldn't you?
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