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| Quote ="tvoc"At this point in 2005 Leeds were the World Club Champions, still in the Challenge Cup and sat on top of the league:
Leeds Played 11, Won 10, Drawn 0, Lost 1, Pts For 448, Pts Agst 162
They were 7 points clear of Hull in third. They had lost just one of their previous twenty-five SL Regular Round fixtures.
Fast forward to 2009:
No longer World Club Champions and out of the Challenge Cup despite getting a home tie, = third in the League on points difference from Huddersfield, Wakefield and Castleford.
Leeds Played 11, Won 7, Drawn 0, Lost 4, Pts For 243, Pts Agst 151
Were we really that bad in 2005 by comparison?'" Obviously not maybe it's 2006 I'm thinking of or it could be that I've got a really bad memory and have been taken in by ER.
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| ATEOTD we aint playing particularly well at the moment but it is April FFS. McClennan has a fair bit of work to do to get us ticking over again but there is plenty of time. To use a cliche, its a marathon not a sprint.
If McClennan can get us top of the pile and win the GF he'll already have done better than Smith in his first two years IMO (what does it really matter though, both have done very good jobs). If he doesnt win the GF then he will still be behind Smith and if we finish trophyless questions need to be asked.
However,I personally think we'll come out of this little slump and go on to win SL again and McClennan will turn out in the long term to be one of Leeds best ever coaches.
As Gareth says I never disliked Mcclenan, I simply wanted him to be judged the same as Smith was.
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| Read it and weep........and this is just the half of it. I haven't even quoted any of Bywaters because quite frankly, there as just too much of it.
Quote ="DHM"So I'm guessing we were $h1t again?
So I'm gueesing we were cluless in attack again?
So I'm guessing our ever weakening forward pack got ted again?
I'm just guessing mind as I wasn't at the match, I was actually watching a pack with some cajones sticking it to Stains. But hey, there's always next year, we can just have a rest this year and watch other teams win stuff. We used to enjoy it for years and years.'"
Quote ="DHM"It's got nothing to do with depth. Our first choice 6 and the bench are not good enough anymore. We have some players who have run out of gas or are not being developed adequately.
I'd be very dissapointed if they are all playing like wet lettuces because they have thrown their teddies out over Buderus's reputed large salary.'"
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Quote ="MHL"lose next week and Mr McClennan could well be looking for a new job'"
Quote ="MHL"6 losses in 8 games (not to mention we've looked crap all year, bar 1 or 2 games), is grounds to be asking if the coach is the right man.'"
Bwahahaha
Quote ="BillyRhino"For me Ablett has been another disappointment. '"
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BMC just looked worried. He seems very good at getting players up for individual games both with us and NZ, I spoke to another supporter tonight who opined "Is he John Kear with a different accent?"'"
Quote ="spaffy"The forward pack went missing leaving wingers and centres to do their job for a very large part of the game. I lost count of how many times Peacock and Bailey stood watching Donald, Hall, Burrow and McGuire take the ball up. There was absolutly no second phase of attack and the kicking game was pathetic to say the least. Not once were their fullback and winger split by a kick. The one out tacticks were clearly not working but nothing was done to change it. Both coach and players should be embarrased.'"
Quote ="The Magic Wand aka Richie Ramrod"Living in the past is a real top quality Leeds supporter trait and you seem to fulfill it well, I have said it before and I will say it again, the Coach and his psychofant staff are clueless, totally and utterly clueless.
The team again has been allowed to go backwards due to not having any long term plan, the lack of replacements for Toopi, Scruton and Ellis show gross incompetence, the perseverance with youngsters ala Watkins when clearly not ready is damaging the kid.
And then we have the reserve side? I have seen them twice this season and they look absolutely clueless but hey having the tactical genius that is Wille Poching is really the way forward.
You see that may be the crux of the problem, Leeds are doing it on the cheap and even insulting Leeds supporters intelligence by increasing price for a substandard product.'"
Quote ="mps"Correctamundo, leeds win things and GH gets comfy rather than build on it.'"
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| I have been known to talk total $h1t at 12.30 on a Friday night after several beverages.
I will remove myslef from any high horse I may have attempted to climb onto...
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| Quote ="DHM"I have been known to talk total $h1t at 12.30 on a Friday night after several beverages.
I will remove myslef from any high horse I may have attempted to climb onto...
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Credit to you for coming back.
Anyone else got the cahones to come back and show their face?
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| Quote ="Head High Tackle"Credit to you for coming back.
Anyone else got the cahones to come back and show their face?'"
I reckon they know you are out hunting!!
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| Quote ="rhinoms"I reckon they know you are out hunting!!
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People should have the courage of their convictions. It's the same every year. Same old crap half way through the season and ultimately proved wrong.
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| I seem to recall a lot of questioning of uber coach McClennan mid season.
Seeing some of those threads again might be interesting also.
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Quote ="tvoc"I seem to recall a lot of questioning of uber coach McClennan mid season.
Seeing some of those threads again might be interesting also.'"
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Quote ="tvoc"I seem to recall a lot of questioning of uber coach McClennan mid season.
Seeing some of those threads again might be interesting also.'"
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| Quote ="tvoc"I seem to recall a lot of questioning of uber coach McClennan mid season.
Seeing some of those threads again might be interesting also.'"
I questioned our discipline and how he'd fix it and he did.
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| Quote ="Head High Tackle"Credit to you for coming back.
Anyone else got the cahones to come back and show their face?'"
Hey, I can be pretty passionate. I had a few beers that night and I made a couple of posts to blow off steam. I am not going to be embarrased about that.
You could call me, and I could be, the biggest Whino fekkwitt alive, but you still wouldn't be able to wipe off the ear to ear grin I've had on my face since about 7.50pm yesterday evening.
$h1t, my boys' team I help coach even won their games yesterday and today..
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| Quote ="DHM"
You could call me, and I could be, the biggest Whino fekkwitt alive, but you still wouldn't be able to wipe off the ear to ear grin I've had on my face since about 7.50pm yesterday evening.quote
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| The thing is that next seson the merry go round will begin again.
we'll be flat, lose a few and people will start saying things like:
''delaney is average, we need a strike centre''
''we didn't sign enough quality, too many unproven players''
''people have worked blueys tactics out''
blah blah
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| Quote ="ifkinghatesaints"The thing is that next seson the merry go round will begin again.
we'll be flat, lose a few and people will start saying things like:
''delaney is average, we need a strike centre''
''we didn't sign enough quality, too many unproven players''
''people have worked blueys tactics out''
blah blah'"
Too right, sometimes I just wonder if these people deserve to "support" this team, a team who have won 3 GF in a row and received nothing but stick during each of the 3 seasons.
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"Too right, sometimes I just wonder if these people deserve to "support" this team, a team who have won 3 GF in a row and received nothing but stick during each of the 3 seasons.'"
I wouldn't say they've recieved nothing but stick.
They've still being back by the supporters throughout the season at games and when it mattered at old trafford.
Did you see how empty saints end was?
You'd never get that from us, no matter how unlikely a victory was.
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"Too right, sometimes I just wonder if these people deserve to "support" this team, a team who have won 3 GF in a row and received nothing but stick during each of the 3 seasons.'"
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| I think that quite a lot of the questions about the squad, tactics and things were valid midway through the season.
In truth, McLennan has sorted out many of the issues, and done the business again. hetherington has addressed many squad issues, and we look stronger than ever for next year.
I think, in general we were fortunate with injuries, although by no means at full strength at any point in the season.
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"I think that quite a lot of the questions about the squad, tactics and things were valid midway through the season.'"
Were they? I think not. Not how they were put across anyway.
Anyway, its time ot disband this squad now, they've been together too long.
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