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| Quote ="Clearwing"I haven't checked the wakey board but I suspect that might not be the unanimous view
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Hard on Wakey, and in a sane world it should have been a draw but for me their equalising drop goal should never have stood. Dywer clearly obstructed. Now that I've calmed down a little I would say that seven of my personal starting seventeen were missing tonight, plus immediate back ups. No wonder they look awful. Doesn't make it easier to watch though.
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| Quote ="Seth"Oledzski- another good performance though probably a measure of just how good he’s been that I didn’t feel it was his best.
Prior - as above though a couple of frustrating discipline issues
Gannon - can’t praise the lad highly enough great energy and not a foot wrong
King- very good meters after contact and work rate
O’Connor- strong reliable performance
Gale - steady if unspectacular
The injury situation would hold more substance but it’s senior players letting down the younger generation. Tom briscoe again just dreadful.'"
Mik was monstering them in D all game; early hits brutal. If that really was his cut-out ball to Hurrell at the end too...
I’m still saying I see O’ Connor as a 9. He has come on loads.
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| Quote ="Seth"Oledzski- another good performance though probably a measure of just how good he’s been that I didn’t feel it was his best.
Prior - as above though a couple of frustrating discipline issues
Gannon - can’t praise the lad highly enough great energy and quality, plays above his age, not a foot wrong
King- very good meters after contact and work rate
O’Connor- strong reliable performance
Gale - steady if unspectacular
The injury situation would hold more substance but it’s senior players letting down the younger generation. Tom briscoe again just dreadful.'"
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| Quote ="Clearwing"I haven't checked the wakey board but I suspect that might not be the unanimous view
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I saw the ball in the left arm, that didn’t touch the ground before the ball was taken, my opinion should have been play on, I suppose you say 50, 50 call, some referees give it, some don’t.
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| Oledski was very good, he was the only player to give Hurrell a decent pass sll game which led to us winning the game.
Gannon looks unbelievable for a 17 year old kid.
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"I saw the ball in the left arm, that didn’t touch the ground before the ball was taken, my opinion should have been play on, I suppose you say 50, 50 call, some referees give it, some don’t.'"
He had called held though hadn’t he?
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| Dwyer was definitely taken out trying to get to the drop goal I’ve no idea how that was missed.
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| Quote ="christopher"He had called held though hadn’t he?'"
I don’t know, I didn’t hear the call, neither did Jay Pitts it would seem.
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| Quote ="christopher"Oledski was very good, he was the only player to give Hurrell a decent pass sll game which led to us winning the game.
Gannon looks unbelievable for a 17 year old kid.'"
If that really was Mik that is a left handed cut out ball right in the money. Maybe he should play 6.
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| We look better with Gale even though he wasnt at his best.Prior fantastic again Oledezki also good.Martin much improved a was Vuniyayawa .Gannon is going to be one hell of a second rower.
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| Silver linings... Gannon, O'Connor and King. Gannon looks like he could be a gem and not unlike a young John Bateman (if that's allowed). The more time O'Connor gets the more he impresses and I agree, he could well end up a 9. King has some pace, sting and makes yards. If he continues in this vein, maybe he's worth an extension. I'd rather see Gannon, O'Connor, Broadbent, Walters get playing time over the next season or two and suffer some ups and downs than sign fixes who are here for just a season or two.
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| Quote ="ocdstephen"Silver linings... Gannon, O'Connor and King. Gannon looks like he could be a gem and not unlike a young John Bateman (if that's allowed). The more time O'Connor gets the more he impresses and I agree, he could well end up a 9. King has some pace, sting and makes yards. If he continues in this vein, maybe he's worth an extension. I'd rather see Gannon, O'Connor, Broadbent, Walters get playing time over the next season or two and suffer some ups and downs than sign fixes who are here for just a season or two.'"
Walters hasn’t overly impressed me so far this year, he’s only young though so im not having a go at him.
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| Quote ="Seth"Vuniyayawa was very good.'"
Was steady tbf Vuniyayawa but made a couple of errors poor miss tackles as well but he wasn't knowhere near the worst for us.
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| I'm not sure I agree with a zero tolerance approach to high shots being brought into SL like they have in the NRL, but if it helps reduce the amount of stoppages for head knocks, and reduces the amount of wrestling at the play the ball, then it's definitely worth a try. That game was so scrappy.
Gannon and O'connor did really well, and apart from a dumb penalty, I thought Prior was outstanding. The jury is out on Walters for me, his work rate isn't particularly, and he look incredibly slow, even for a back rower, but he's young so we shouldn't expect too much at this stage.
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| Quote ="christopher"Walters hasn’t overly impressed me so far this year, he’s only young though so im not having a go at him.
O’Connor look to have improved with game time though.'"
Agree on Walters but he will improve. Maybe he’s missing his greatest fan.
Really pleased with the result if not the performance tonight. We were OK in defence although Wakey without Johnstone didn’t test us much.
There were a bunch of pretty good individual performances in there.
Newman will be back as starting centre at some point. I believe L Sutcliffe has to drop to bench or out the side then. Eastmond or Lui at 6. Myler back at FB. We need a few games with a settled side too but I’m still hopeful we’ll start playing well.
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| Quote ="Seth"Dwyer was definitely taken out trying to get to the drop goal I’ve no idea how that was missed.'" i felt that on the replay
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| why did nothing come of the clear crusher tackle on Hurrell? very poor from the officials and video ref
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| Quote ="christopher"Oledski was very good, he was the only player to give Hurrell a decent pass sll game which led to us winning the game.
Gannon looks unbelievable for a 17 year old kid.'"
Agar was touting Gannon as a generational talent and I think he’s right. What a player he’s going to be. O’Connor looks good too he’s really improving. Walters went well too I thought, like the look of him
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| Quote ="Jrrhino"Two really poor teams errors with ball all over pitch no attacking threat with ball from either team. Thankfully for us we've come out on right-side of result got 2 desperately needed points. O'Connor, Gannon gave great effort for young lads some great carries, Oledski gave a very strong performance again gave a brave and excellent pass in golden point for Hurrell too make his break, Hurrell himself came up with 2 big plays his try & break in GP but had plenty of errors too go a long side those. Prior worked hard as usual apart from that can't think of anyone else who had a half decent game. Gale was trying too lead us but looked rusty after being out a few weeks he stepped up when we needed him with the drop goal was very calm and we'd have probably not got too golden point if he didn't play tonight. I for one think we need the captains challenge like the NRL because the amount of decisions officials get wrong and change momentum and cost teams is ridiculous. Anyway a wins a win a couple more troops back and hopefully of a more balanced team and see how we go.'"
Agreed on captains challenge. Really poor refereeing tonight. Wakey drop goal should never have been allowed. Right result in the end, but felt like we were playing a Championship team. No Johnstone and Fafita went off injured.
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| Wasnt pretty, wasnt fluid, most of the time it wasnt organised but again the effort was there in bucketloads. The criticism of the team which is clearly giving its all is beyond a joke from our own "supporters". Weve kids all over the park, weve players playing out of position, weve players just returning from injury and around 10 players out. What the hell are you expecting the team to look like?
Our best 2 players this season Mikolaj and Prior have played most weeks, havent had injuries and have played in their natural positons. Funny that isnt it?
Have to say while the last penalty was the correct call it was marginal but the penalty to get Wakey level at 12 all for the tackle by Luke Briscoe, while again by the letter of the law was a correct call but if tackles like that are penalties the game needs to look at the rules again.
People saying Walters doesnt work hard enough, he makes 40 tackles most weeks, hes a kid and has played a lot of minutes this season already. He was off tonight, that happens with young forwards especially. Hes had a lot on his plate the last few months and has done well.
Broadbent has been solid and done a nice job for us but were beginning to see some weariness in him now, hes played every game apart from KR and its not easy for these kids. Hes not a natural full back and Myler should improve the team on his return hopefully.
I thought O'Connor played well, he will make 50 tackles most weeks in the middle of the park which is superb for any team. Hes a good kid.
Koni was hit and miss tonight but he is our biggest threat, needs a run of games now. Sutcliife, Mellor and Martin improved in the 2nd half.
Defensively we was ok, particularly in restricting yardage i thought. Like i say i thought the effort was there for all to see again.
Kicking game and last tackle plays very poor again but really we are playing with 1 half who is just returning from injury. Dummy half distribution well lets be kind and say it was bloody awful. People calling for both Leeming and Dwyer on at the same time must watch different stuff to me Im afraid.
Morgan Gannon superb, playing as a 17 year old prop tonight. Magnificent. No doubt people will call for him to play every week until he drops a ball when he will turn into another bum. Lets be patient with him. Bring him through gradually and weve a good one there. He looks very comfortable at this level.
Hopefully the return of Myler and Tetevano will help the team.
We needed a result tonight and got one. Lets be thankful for that and move onto next week.
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"Wasnt pretty, wasnt fluid, most of the time it wasnt organised but again the effort was there in bucketloads. The criticism of the team which is clearly giving its all is beyond a joke from our own "supporters". Weve kids all over the park, weve players playing out of position, weve players just returning from injury and around 10 players out. What the hell are you expecting the team to look like?
Our best 2 players this season Mikolaj and Prior have played most weeks, havent had injuries and have played in their natural positons. Funny that isnt it?
Have to say while the last penalty was the correct call it was marginal but the penalty to get Wakey level at 12 all for the tackle by Luke Briscoe, while again by the letter of the law was a correct call but if tackles like that are penalties the game needs to look at the rules again.
People saying Walters doesnt work hard enough, he makes 40 tackles most weeks, hes a kid and has played a lot of minutes this season already. He was off tonight, that happens with young forwards especially. Hes had a lot on his plate the last few months and has done well.
Broadbent has been solid and done a nice job for us but were beginning to see some weariness in him now, hes played every game apart from KR and its not easy for these kids. Hes not a natural full back and Myler should improve the team on his return hopefully.
I thought O'Connor played well, he will make 50 tackles most weeks in the middle of the park which is superb for any team. Hes a good kid.
Koni was hit and miss tonight but he is our biggest threat, needs a run of games now. Sutcliife, Mellor and Martin improved in the 2nd half.
Defensively we was ok, particularly in restricting yardage i thought. Like i say i thought the effort was there for all to see again.
Kicking game and last tackle plays very poor again but really we are playing with 1 half who is just returning from injury. Dummy half distribution well lets be kind and say it was bloody awful. People calling for both Leeming and Dwyer on at the same time must watch different stuff to me Im afraid.
Morgan Gannon superb, playing as a 17 year old prop tonight. Magnificent. No doubt people will call for him to play every week until he drops a ball when he will turn into another bum. Lets be patient with him. Bring him through gradually and weve a good one there. He looks very comfortable at this level.
Hopefully the return of Myler and Tetevano will help the team.
We needed a result tonight and got one. Lets be thankful for that and move onto next week.'"
Good balanced post. Didn't watch the gane live, listened on radio and caught some highlights. I can forgive the errors as long as the effort is there. I don't think the overall standard in SL is very high and we're not that far off some of the others....
You'd think we'd lost by 50 on here.....!
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| Was listening to some music on a popular channel last night. Was shocked to see full game replay on there. Watched some' with lots of fast forwarding!
Long may it continue..... Power to the people....!
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"Wasnt pretty, wasnt fluid, most of the time it wasnt organised but again the effort was there in bucketloads. The criticism of the team which is clearly giving its all is beyond a joke from our own "supporters". Weve kids all over the park, weve players playing out of position, weve players just returning from injury and around 10 players out. What the hell are you expecting the team to look like?
Our best 2 players this season Mikolaj and Prior have played most weeks, havent had injuries and have played in their natural positons. Funny that isnt it?
Have to say while the last penalty was the correct call it was marginal but the penalty to get Wakey level at 12 all for the tackle by Luke Briscoe, while again by the letter of the law was a correct call but if tackles like that are penalties the game needs to look at the rules again.
People saying Walters doesnt work hard enough, he makes 40 tackles most weeks, hes a kid and has played a lot of minutes this season already. He was off tonight, that happens with young forwards especially. Hes had a lot on his plate the last few months and has done well.
Broadbent has been solid and done a nice job for us but were beginning to see some weariness in him now, hes played every game apart from KR and its not easy for these kids. Hes not a natural full back and Myler should improve the team on his return hopefully.
I thought O'Connor played well, he will make 50 tackles most weeks in the middle of the park which is superb for any team. Hes a good kid.
Koni was hit and miss tonight but he is our biggest threat, needs a run of games now. Sutcliife, Mellor and Martin improved in the 2nd half.
Defensively we was ok, particularly in restricting yardage i thought. Like i say i thought the effort was there for all to see again.
Kicking game and last tackle plays very poor again but really we are playing with 1 half who is just returning from injury. Dummy half distribution well lets be kind and say it was bloody awful. People calling for both Leeming and Dwyer on at the same time must watch different stuff to me Im afraid.
Morgan Gannon superb, playing as a 17 year old prop tonight. Magnificent. No doubt people will call for him to play every week until he drops a ball when he will turn into another bum. Lets be patient with him. Bring him through gradually and weve a good one there. He looks very comfortable at this level.
Hopefully the return of Myler and Tetevano will help the team.
We needed a result tonight and got one. Lets be thankful for that and move onto next week.'"
Well summarised.
I have been impressed with O'Connor most times he has played and last night he was really good. His lack of height is the only reason to question where is best position will be. If he was a bit bigger probably no one would question his future as a backrower.He still seems to make yardage when taking the ball up and looks an excellent defender who reads the game well. Whether the coaching staff plan to try and convert him to hooker or keep him as a loose forward/ backrower I don't know but he looks to have a future at SL level
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| Quote ="The Magic Rat"Well summarised.
I have been impressed with O'Connor most times he has played and last night he was really good. His lack of height is the only reason to question where is best position will be. If he was a bit bigger probably no one would question his future as a backrower.He still seems to make yardage when taking the ball up and looks an excellent defender who reads the game well. Whether the coaching staff plan to try and convert him to hooker or keep him as a loose forward/ backrower I don't know but he looks to have a future at SL level'"
Sounds like James Donaldson Mark 2 then....
And thats not a critisicm BTW..!
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"Wasnt pretty, wasnt fluid, most of the time it wasnt organised but again the effort was there in bucketloads. The criticism of the team which is clearly giving its all is beyond a joke from our own "supporters". Weve kids all over the park, weve players playing out of position, weve players just returning from injury and around 10 players out. What the hell are you expecting the team to look like?
Our best 2 players this season Mikolaj and Prior have played most weeks, havent had injuries and have played in their natural positons. Funny that isnt it?
Have to say while the last penalty was the correct call it was marginal but the penalty to get Wakey level at 12 all for the tackle by Luke Briscoe, while again by the letter of the law was a correct call but if tackles like that are penalties the game needs to look at the rules again.
People saying Walters doesnt work hard enough, he makes 40 tackles most weeks, hes a kid and has played a lot of minutes this season already. He was off tonight, that happens with young forwards especially. Hes had a lot on his plate the last few months and has done well.
Broadbent has been solid and done a nice job for us but were beginning to see some weariness in him now, hes played every game apart from KR and its not easy for these kids. Hes not a natural full back and Myler should improve the team on his return hopefully.
I thought O'Connor played well, he will make 50 tackles most weeks in the middle of the park which is superb for any team. Hes a good kid.
Koni was hit and miss tonight but he is our biggest threat, needs a run of games now. Sutcliife, Mellor and Martin improved in the 2nd half.
Defensively we was ok, particularly in restricting yardage i thought. Like i say i thought the effort was there for all to see again.
Kicking game and last tackle plays very poor again but really we are playing with 1 half who is just returning from injury. Dummy half distribution well lets be kind and say it was bloody awful. People calling for both Leeming and Dwyer on at the same time must watch different stuff to me Im afraid.
Morgan Gannon superb, playing as a 17 year old prop tonight. Magnificent. No doubt people will call for him to play every week until he drops a ball when he will turn into another bum. Lets be patient with him. Bring him through gradually and weve a good one there. He looks very comfortable at this level.
Hopefully the return of Myler and Tetevano will help the team.
We needed a result tonight and got one. Lets be thankful for that and move onto next week.'"
The effort was there yes & ive not seen ANYONE criticise the youngsters so dont know what point you're trying make there.
We still have enough 1st Team experience to resemble some sort of orgsnised Team with a game plan & there's nothing wrong with expecting that.
Agree with everything else.
The win was vital it was very ugly but its a win & hopefully something we can build on but lets be clear the next phase of recruitment needs to be much better otherwise its a long time before we're genuine GF contenders.
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