Good work, I started one then that blasted thing call work got in the way booooo. We are only 4 wins away from overtaking Bradford, nice sign of the times.

Here are the rest that have taken part in Super League. The order I've determined by number of games, then comp points.

Hull: Played 325, Won 159, Drawn 13, Lost 153, Pts For 7548, Pts Agst 7555, (Avg Scr 23-23), Comp Pts 329, 51%, Avg Regular Season Finish 6.27

Castleford: Played 314, Won 130, Drawn 12, Lost 172, Pts For 6733, Pts Agst 7973, (Avg Scr 21-25), Comp Pts 272, 43%, Avg Regular Season Finish 8.36

Wakefield: Played 302, Won 106, Drawn 4, Lost 192, Pts For 6541, Pts Agst 8423, (Avg Scr 22-28 ), Comp Pts 214, 435%, Avg Regular Season Finish 9.60

Huddersfield: Played 297, Won 101, Drawn 4, Lost 192, Pts For 6187, Pts Agst 8372, (Avg Scr 21-28 ), Comp Pts 206, 35%, Avg Regular Season Finish 9.90

Salford: Played 291, Won 90, Drawn 4, Lost 197, Pts For 5361, Pts Agst 8277, (Avg Scr 18-28 ), Comp Pts 184, 32%, Avg Regular Season Finish 9.50

Halifax: Played 209, Won 76, Drawn 4, Lost 129, Pts For 4646, Pts Agst 5912, (Avg Scr 22-28 ), Comp Pts 154, 37%, Avg Regular Season Finish 7.88

Widnes: Played 112, Won 39, Drawn 3, Lost 70, Pts For 2294, Pts Agst 3341, (Avg Scr 20-30), Comp Pts 81, 36%, Avg Regular Season Finish 9.50

Les Catalans: Played 103, Won 43, Drawn 3, Lost 57, Pts For 2346, Pts Agst 2754, (Avg Scr 23-27), Comp Pts 89, 43%, Avg Regular Season Finish 8.33

Sheffield: Played 97, Won 37, Drawn 3, Lost 57, Pts For 2027, Pts Agst 2663, (Avg Scr 21-27), Comp Pts 77, 40%, Avg Regular Season Finish 8.25

Hull KR: Played 76, Won 34, Drawn 2, Lost 40, Pts For 1569, Pts Agst 1864, (Avg Scr 21-25), Comp Pts 70, 46%, Avg Regular Season Finish 9.00

Oldham: Played 44, Won 13, Drawn 2, Lost 29, Pts For 934, Pts Agst 1312, (Avg Scr 21-30), Comp Pts 28, 32%, Avg Regular Season Finish 10.00

Paris: Played 44, Won 9, Drawn 1, Lost 34, Pts For 760, Pts Agst 1367, (Avg Scr 17-31), Comp Pts 19, 22%, Avg Regular Season Finish 11.00

Gateshead: Played 30, Won 19, Drawn 1, Lost 10, Pts For 775, Pts Agst 576, (Avg Scr 26-19), Comp Pts 39, 65%, Avg Regular Season Finish 6.00

Leigh: Played 28, Won 2, Drawn 1, Lost 25, Pts For 445, Pts Agst 1210, (Avg Scr 16-43), Comp Pts 5, 9%, Avg Regular Season Finish 12.00

Celtic: Played 22, Won 3, Drawn 0, Lost 19, Pts For 307, Pts Agst 649, (Avg Scr 14-30), Comp Pts 6, 14%, Avg Regular Season Finish 14.00?

Workington: Played 22, Won 2, Drawn 1, Lost 19, Pts For 325, Pts Agst 1021, (Avg Scr 15-46), Comp Pts 5, 11%, Avg Regular Season Finish 12.00

Please note: The Huddersfield figures include their one season as Huddersfield/Sheffield in 2000.

Funny how Gatehead are 5th most sucessful team based on those averages

I think the RFL should employ tvoc in 2 years time to look at stats over the three years to see who, if any, should lose their SL licence.

Don’t be daft – that would mean that they would have to employ a fair and transparent system set against a set of measurable criteria.

That’d never happen.

Ahhhh forgive my ignorance! How could I have thought that the RFL would employ such sensibilities



They should have a blind monkey throw a dart at team names. Who ever it hits is in!

Also have a live 64 week x-factor style television program so the public can choose the monkey!

No game this week so how about a list to tie in with the [url=http://viewtopic.php?t=422567&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=300Brett Delenay thread[/url:

Leeds' overseas recruits after the lifting of the import ban:

Pre SL Era:

1983/84 - Dean Bell, Trevor Clark, Mark Laurie, Rickie Lulham, Steve Martin, Terry Webb

1984/85 - Steve Bleakley, Trevor Clark, Tony Currie, Wally Fullerton-Smith, Eric Grothe, Neil Hunt, Gavin Jones, Rickie Lulham, Trevor Patterson, Terry Webb

1985/86 - Trevor Clark, Tony Currie, Cliff Lyons, Terry Webb

1986/87 - Trevor Clark, Andrew Ettingshausen, Mark McGaw, Bob Morris, Peter Smith, [iMark Wilkes(?)[/i

1987/88 - Mark Brooke-Cowden, Marty Gurr, Peter Jackson, Steve Morris, Peter Tunks, [iDarren Stevens(?) [/i

1988/89 - Sam Backo, Mark Brooke-Cowden, Andrew Ettingshausen, Cliff Lyons

1989/90 - Craig Coleman, David Cruickshank, Cavill Heugh, Craig Izzard, Mike Kuiti, Mark Laurie, Rex Terp

1990/91 - John Gallagher, Cavill Heugh, Mike Kuiti, Eddie Rombo

1991/92 - Morvin Edwards, John Gallagher, Cavill Heugh, Craig Innes

1992/93 - Morvin Edwards, John Gallagher, [iCarl Grigg (?)[/i, Craig Innes, Kevin Iro, Gary Mercer

1993/94 - Craig Innes, Kevin Iro, Gary Mercer

1994/95 - Patrick Entat, Esene Faimalo, Craig Innes, Kevin Iro, George Mann, Gary Mercer

1995/96 - Esene Faimalo, Carl Hall, Craig Innes, Kevin Iro, Tony Kemp, George Mann, Gary Mercer

SL Era:

1996 - Kevin Iro, Carl Hall, Tony Kemp, George Mann, Gary Mercer, Esene Faimalo, Nathan Picchi, Dean Clark, Sateki Tuipulotu, Dean Bell, Craig Innes

1997 - Richie Blackmore, Damian Gibson, Tony Kemp, Martin Masella, Wayne Collins, Jamie Mathiou, Gary Mercer

1998 - Richie Blackmore, Brad Godden, Tony Kemp, Martin Masella, Marc Glanville, Jamie Mathiou

1999 - Richie Blackmore, Brad Godden, Martin Masella, Marc Glanville, Jamie Mathiou

2000 - Richie Blackmore, David Barnhill, Paul Bell, Jamie Mathiou, Graham Mackay

2001 - Tonie Carroll, Brett Mullins, Robbie Mears, Bradley Clyde, Jamie Mathiou, Gary Mercer

2002 - Tonie Carroll, Ben Walker, Matt Adamson, Adrian Vowles, Willie Poching

2003 - Chris McKenna, David Furner, Matt Adamson, Andrew Dunemann, Willie Poching

2004 - Chris McKenna, David Furner, Matt Adamson, Andrew Dunemann, Willie Poching, Marcus Bai, Ali Lauitiiti

2005 - Marcus Bai, Ali Lauitiiti, Chris McKenna, Andrew Dunemann, Willie Poching

2006 - Scott Donald, Ali Lauitiiti, Shane Millard, Willie Poching, Mark O'Neill, Clinton Toopi

2007 - Brent Webb, Scott Donald, Clinton Toopi, Kylie Leuluai, Ali Lauitiiti

2008 - Brent Webb, Scott Donald, Clinton Toopi, Kylie Leuluai, Ali Lauitiiti, Eric Anselme

2009 - Brent Webb, Scott Donald, Kylie Leuluai, Danny Buderus, Ali Lauitiiti

Edit: Mark Brooke-Cowden's stint started 1987/88 as per GCH's correction below.

I suppose you can count Carl Grigg, although wasn't he born in Morley but raised in Australia?



Darren Stevens, there's a blast from the past - hooker IIRC?

Is the year in which we had the least number of imports also the one with the greatest quality per player?

I thought Brooke-Cowden joined us during the 1987-88 season? Obviouslu, I bow to your greaet knowledge and resources, but in my head, that's when he joined.

I'll have a look the next time I fire up the desktop.

When I did the list I was just reading across a season by season appearance spreadsheet. It's possible I've missed someone or imagined they were from this country.

Edit: Corrected now, thanks.

We signed Brookie directly after the All Blacks won the inaugural RU World Cup in the summer of 87 IIRC.Seem to remember he made his debut against Leigh at home along with Lee Crooks et al.

I seem to remember Grigg was some kind of faux-aussie as well. Ah, Mark Wilkes. IIRC played one game for us, home to barrow when they were the worst team by a long way and we scraped a 9-7 win or something similar, in what at the time was probably the lowest quality game I'd ever seen from both sides. Vaguely remember Stevens too.

Looking at the official for the Castleford game.

SL Regular Rounds (Thaler hasn't been appointed in any Play Off games yet)

Ben Thaler: Leeds

Played 15, Won 14, Drawn 0, Lost 1

16-Jun-06 ….. SL 11-17 ….. Salford 18 ….. Leeds 19
01-Sep-06 ….. SL 11-26 ….. Leeds 54 ….. Warrington 16
23-Mar-07 ….. SL 12-07 ….. Leeds 28 ….. Harlequins 16
15-Apr-07 ….. SL 12-10 ….. Warrington 10 ….. Leeds 52
27-Apr-07 ….. SL 12-12 ….. Leeds 54 ….. Catalans 8
01-Jun-07 ….. SL 12-16 ….. Leeds 42 ….. Warrington 26
12-Jul-07 ….. SL 12-20 ….. Wigan 18 ….. Leeds 2
10-Aug-07 ….. SL 12-23 ….. Leeds 52 ….. Salford 14
22-Feb-08 ….. SL 13-03 ….. Leeds 34 ….. Catalans 6
14-Mar-08 ….. SL 13-06 ….. Leeds 48 ….. Harlequins 0
06-Jun-08 ….. SL 13-16 ….. Leeds 38 ….. Hull 22
08-Aug-08 ….. SL 13-24 ….. Leeds 28 ….. Bradford 18
06-Feb-09 ….. SL 14-03 ….. Leeds 28 ….. Celtic 6
27-Mar-09 ….. SL 14-07 ….. Leeds 42 ….. Catalans 14
17-Jul-09 ….. SL 14-21 ….. Leeds 24 ….. Hull KR 14

Look at the run of Home appointments for Leeds games there.....bizarre.

Ben Thaler: Castleford

Played 6, Won 2, Drawn 1, Lost 3

02-Mar-08 ….. SL 13-04 ….. Castleford 16 ….. Harlequins 22
30-Mar-08 ….. SL 13-09 ….. Bradford 50 ….. Castleford 4
22-Jun-08 ….. SL 13-18 ….. Castleford 22 ….. Wigan 22
20-Jul-08 ….. SL 13-22 ….. Harlequins 12 ….. Castleford 66
06-Jun-09 ….. SL 14-15 ….. Castleford 18 ….. Warrington 34
05-Jul-09 ….. SL 14-19 ….. Bradford 38 ….. Castleford 40

I'd forgotten how close this game was to us being du,ped out of the play-offs by them

The night the Carnegie stand was opened.

What a great coach Cullen must have been to turn that Warrington team around and overcome arriving at the ground late for the play off fixture.

Next opponents - Castleford Tigers

Leeds SL Era Record V Castleford

All Comps: All Fixtures
Played 33, Won 21, Drawn 2, Lost 10, Pts For 955, Pts Agst 620 ..... Avg Scr (29-19) ..... 67%

All Comps: Headingley:
Played 17, Won 14, Drawn 0, Lost 3, Pts For 574, Pts Agst 285 ..... Avg Scr (34-17) ..... 82%

SL Reg Rds:
Played 29, Won 19, Drawn 2, Lost 8, Pts For 863, Pts Agst 556 ..... Avg Scr (30-19) ..... 69%

SL Reg Rds: Headingley:
Played 14, Won 13, Drawn 0, Lost 1, Pts For 524, Pts Agst 233 ..... Avg Scr (37-17) ..... 93%

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Leeds' Biggest Win: 66 - 14 (Headingley - 5th March 2006)
Leeds' Biggest Win At Headingley: See Above
Leeds' Widest Winning Margin: 64 - 12 (Headingley - 27th August 2004)
................................................: 66 - 14 (Headingley - 5th March 2006)
Leeds' Widest Winning Margin At Headingley: See Above
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Castleford's Biggest Win: 38 - 20 (Wheldon Road - 7th March 200icon_cool.gif
Castleford's Biggest Win At Headingley: 32 - 24 (12th July 2002)


Castleford's Widest Winning Margin: 38 - 20 (Wheldon Road - 7th March 200icon_cool.gif
Castleford's Widest Winning Margin At Headingley: 32 - 24 (12th July 2002)

If Scott Donald plays he will make his 100th SL Regular Round Appearance (and Start.)

He will become the 23rd (and 16th) Leeds player to do so in their Headingley careers.

(If Jamie Peacock plays in the final four Regular Round matches of the season he'll become the 24th.)

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Danny McGuire has a fairly remarkable record V Castleford.

Played 10 + 1, Tries 17, Points 68

Records are there to be broken. Time for a re-write and a Tony Smith Leeds record replaced by a Brian McClennan one.



The first time McGuire fails to score in a game V Castleford coincides with a fourteen try haul for the team.

how many assits did he get last night?

You'll have to wait until sometime Monday/Tuesday for the official Opta version in my weekly thread.

My prediction is ...... not as many as it should be.

And last night he finally reached the mark of 100 tries in the SL Regular Rounds.

He's the fourth Leeds player to do so

1 - Keith Senior 136
2 - Danny McGuire 135
3 - Francis Cummins 111
4 - Rob Burrow 100

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Kevin Sinfield has now kicked 997 goals for Leeds in all comps. The total is made up of 978 place kicks + 19 drop goals.

He is poised to become only the second Leeds player to pass 1,000 goals for the club.

The first, of course, being the legendary Lewis Jones who finished his Headingley career with a total of 1,244

Well done Sinny lad



Keep up the good work tvoc

so he's not too far behind the maestro now

Darn Ryan Hall grabbing a bunch of tries - I was all set to ask tvoc when was the last season Leeds went without a player scoring more than 2 tries in any game. I suspect a long time ago.

Doesn't McGuire's 'failure' to score in such a high scoring game mean that his contirbution was close to zero? According to many opposition fans he's just a support player, so if he fails to score a single try in that kind of game he needs to get booted out of the side.

It was during the Super League 1 season of 1996.

It would have been 1997 but for a solitary hat-trick from a very unusual source.