my view is that whilst the squad is not the best in the league it should be doing better. A freshening up of coaching would show the biggest and quickest upturn in fortunes

Coaching changes - including by smart existing coaches - can make a big difference. Watching the Dogs last night, whilst they lost to the Roosters their style of play has changed massively without a big change in personnel. Gone is Graham as a halfback, in has come quick passing to the backs. That's under the same coach. Whilst they didn't win, against the same Roosters team they would have been hammered last year.

I'd contrast that with Souths, who look like they are playing the same style as last year, but its getting less and less effective.

So these 'dont panic' e-mails have now become a regular occurrence. How is this still going on? I just read this old thread and it's worse now, what a joke this has gone on too long. I think there will be many more don't panic emails to come as Mac won't go

Good response in some adversity, that should indicate that the 2017 mob have just abit more in them than 2016.

You would also have to conclude that the player are behind Mcdermott as well, after hetherington's statement of intent WRT to changes if results continued like the cas one.

but they are playing for their futures too remember, so they have motivation through that.

I seen a peanut stand, heard a rubber band
I seen a needle that winked its eye
But I be done seen about everything
When I see an elephant fly
(What'd you say, boy?)
I said, when I see an elephant fly
Or was it “I believe we can win the Grand Final” – Brian McDermott

Any comment or just another quote?

Genuine question, what are your thoughts now?

My pov is that we still need changes on & off the pitch.
It's great to see a response after the Cas debacle & the Players/Coach etc deserve credit for that but there's still a big transition to come.
We have plenty of potential quality within the Acadamy to bring through & intergrate into 1st team regulars & i think 6yrs under 1 Coach is long enough for our Club & the case to freshen things up is still obvious.

Played 4
Won 4
Lost 0

Made plenty of the internet coaches & CEO's on here look silly

beat 3 lower placed teams and a half strength wigan side. lets see how the season pans out

Beat Catalans....."judge us next week"
Beat Wakey....."judge us next week"
Beat Hudds....."judge us next week"
Beat Wigan....."judge us throughout the season, although one defeat vs Cas didn't evoke feelings of judging us throughout a whole season"

like I said lets see how the season pans out. I tipped leeds to win all 4, they couldn't have hand picked better games with the exeption of widnes.

Your Round 4 prediction had Catalans to beat us by 8 points

correct my apologies. I went to change it as I predeicted before hetheringtons statement but left it to late.
I did say on the game thread I expected a response and leeds to win

The reaction speaks volumes. Way off the best squad we've had for the last 15 yrs, but the resolve can't be questioned.

They beat what was in front of them Tad and that is all they can do on any given week.

And added that if Catalans got ahead we'd be f**ked as our bench is so pathetic.....stop digging that hole

No don't be silly, on SouthStander they have to beat any team by a predetermined amount of points otherwise they won't win jack sh*t according to our multiple GF coaches on here

Jesus, if it had been Leeds being beaten fielding a half strength team, you would have been in melt down.We can only beat what's put in front of us.

What have Cas and Wigan beaten in reality? We were as depleted as Wigan tonight vs Cas, yet it was a clear indicator of a mass clearout needed apparently.

Lost count of the number of people who said "let's see how the season pans out" after the Cas defeat



McDermott making the internet coaches, CEO's and In-The-Knows look stupid since 2011. Of course everyone alledgely backed us to win 4 from 4 straight after the Cas defeat.....no really.

Wonder where the criticisers of my claims the attack will eventually come good are now???

Why cant some people just be happy that we are playing pretty well?
Some seem more happy that they were right to back the coach than that we actually won

We are playing well but 1986 kangaroos we are not, can we leave it there?