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| Quote ="tad rhino"ifs and buts. all teams could say the same (wakefield apart).'"
Maybe not hull or Cas (look at their points difference against ours)
I totally agree its ifs or buts but it is fine lines is the point
Probably shows how competitive (or poor depending on your POV) the league is
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| I think Sam Walters will be better than big Mick given game time next year.
The effort he has given travelling over every week for a few years now has not been rewarded IMO.
Good luck Sam.
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| Quote ="Chesterrhino"I think Sam Walters will be better than big Mick given game time next year.'"
Absolutely not. Some severe overrating of Walters and underrating of Mik going on
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| I'll be surprised if Wigan even play Walters at prop. When I saw the announcement I assumed he was a direct replacement for KPP.
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| Quote ="Nothus"I'll be surprised if Wigan even play Walters at prop. When I saw the announcement I assumed he was a direct replacement for KPP.'"
Has he played much backrow in the first team?
Is he athletic enough ? Can he play 80 minutes ?
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| Quote ="christopher"I agree some of our performances have been dire but it is still fine lines in terms of wins/losses and what that means.
If Martin kicks that penalty against saints, we don’t bomb those early chances against Wakefield, Olpherts catches that easy pass against Cas away, we don’t clock off in the last 5 minutes at Magic, Newman passes to Myler in the cup, were looking at a total different scenario.
But alas we are where we are.'"
As you said there are always key points in games and we are only looking at it from our side - look at the opportunities from the other side and they probably even each up. Our position in the league is a true reflection of how we have played this season.
Hopefully the Huddersfield game give everyone a lift in their belief and confidence.
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| Quote ="NSW"Has he played much backrow in the first team?
Is he athletic enough ? Can he play 80 minutes ?'"
He's always been a 2nd row until Smith came in. But he's not quick enough for an edge forward. His workrate wasn't the bedt when he played there. Moving him to prop forced him to up his workrate, and he's definitely improving in that regard
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| Quote ="Jack Burton"He's always been a 2nd row until Smith came in. But he's not quick enough for an edge forward. His workrate wasn't the bedt when he played there. Moving him to prop forced him to up his workrate, and he's definitely improving in that regard'"
Thanks for the info mate
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| He has looked good last couple of weeks. He will add a fair bit more size and strength I think as he matures bit gutted we’ve lost him but hey…
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| I thought he had potential but wasnt sure about him, seems to switch off in defence sometimes but he has been very good these last two weeks. Fair play to him, he could go to the top.
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| This lad is a very good prospect and should have been given more opportunities.
IMO he will be better than big Mick who is not improving and a bit like Ian Kirk not aggressive enough.
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| More opportunities? He's started loads of games this season, and last. He even played in a GF!
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| Comparing Oledski to Ian Kirke, wow
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| Quote ="Chesterrhino"This lad is a very good prospect and should have been given more opportunities.
IMO he will be better than big Mick who is not improving and a bit like Ian Kirk not aggressive enough.'"
Some take that.
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| Big mik carried our pack last year,mostly while suffering from a shoulder injury iirc.
Will take him a bit of time and now he has back up he doesn't need to whip himself into injuries
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| Quote ="Chesterrhino"This lad is a very good prospect and should have been given more opportunities.
IMO he will be better than big Mick who is not improving and a bit like Ian Kirk not aggressive enough.'"
Utter bollox, Oledski was miles ahead of Walters at the same age, he was immense last night his best game this season, he still not hitting too form thus year but easily our best prop last 3 seasons, still nit 25 until later this season.
Not aggressive enough and comparing him to Ian kirke, ridiculous comment.
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| Bagging Mik is ridiculous imo.
Walters has been very good, albeit can still be a bit naive defensively. He should learn and has all the tools to go to the top.
I’m disappointed to lose him and can’t help but think if he’d have been a bit more patient he’s got the game time he wanted/needed and might have made another decision.
Having said that, we don’t know if there were other reasons like wanting to be closer to home?
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| What's happened to salford tonight. Or is it wakey?!
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| Quote ="Seth"What's happened to salford tonight. Or is it wakey?!'"
Wakey are a quality outfit. We saw that 2 weeks ago......
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| Quote ="Seth"What's happened to salford tonight. Or is it wakey?!'"
Salford squad looked a bit iffy tbf. I know the BBC sometimes get it wrong but it read as if watkins was named at 6.
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| Quote ="Seth"What's happened to salford tonight. Or is it wakey?!'"
Salford saving all their players for next sunday
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| Walters shouldn't play for us again. He's made his bed. Id rather give his minutes to other props, including one of our academy players.
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| Quote ="Bang"Walters shouldn't play for us again. He's made his bed. Id rather give his minutes to other props, including one of our academy players.'"
I understand the sentiment, but is there anyone in the academy ready for those minutes?
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| Quote ="Barrie’s Glass Eye"I understand the sentiment, but is there anyone in the academy ready for those minutes?'"
When everyone is fit he probably misses out anyway, unless Tet is now done after the stroke?
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