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| It would be a shame if he goes but i don’t think the club should be getting into bidding wars, he’s not that good.
If his agent is Craig Harrison he’ll end up at Hull KR probably
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| Quote ="chapylad"Don`t they have to wait until the 1st May?'"
Unless they have been permission by Leeds to talk to ither clubs, which I doubt is the case.
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| Quote ="Vic Mackie"Dupree was a cock up by the club. If Walters goes then that will be of a similar level. He has really improved over the last year and has IMO warranted more minutes this year.
The club cannot talk about building if they are to allow players like him go.'"
It depends if he’s been offered silly money elsewhere, our cap needs managing and we shouldn’t be held to ransom by players.
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| Walters was excellent in his single game for us. Head and shoulders a SL player IMO. Just needs a run of games to build up some consistency.
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| Quote ="christopher"It would be a shame if he goes but i don’t think the club should be getting into bidding wars, he’s not that good.
If his agent is Craig Harrison he’ll end up at Hull KR probably'"
I'd like him at Leigh Chris.
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| Quote ="christopher"It would be a shame if he goes but i don’t think the club should be getting into bidding wars, he’s not that good.
If his agent is Craig Harrison he’ll end up at Hull KR probably'"
At 22 and just converting to the front row he's shown good promise and too early to say he's not that good. He's a frame to grow into and as mentioned walmsley wasn't the finished article at 22. If he went to St's I wouldn't picture him being anything but a success
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| Quote ="Seth"At 22 and just converting to the front row he's shown good promise and too early to say he's not that good. He's a frame to grow into and as mentioned walmsley wasn't the finished article at 22. If he went to St's I wouldn't picture him being anything but a success'"
He’s not that good to get into a bidding war is what I mean.
I want him to stay
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| Quote ="Seth"At 22 and just converting to the front row he's shown good promise and too early to say he's not that good. He's a frame to grow into and as mentioned walmsley wasn't the finished article at 22. If he went to St's I wouldn't picture him being anything but a success'"
Agreed Seth. I just think it’s got to work both ways. The lad has to be willing to show some patience, it’s not like he’s not played any first team at all under smith. He was trusted enough for the grand final last year and if we’re honest is one injury or suspension away from a run in the first team.
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| Quote ="Barrie’s Glass Eye"Agreed Seth. I just think it’s got to work both ways. The lad has to be willing to show some patience, it’s not like he’s not played any first team at all under smith. He was trusted enough for the grand final last year and if we’re honest is one injury or suspension away from a run in the first team.'"
Yeah think that’s it. Think hex wants to move, so probably not a lot we can do, as not worth a massive pay rise at this stage either…..
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| I'd be concerned about why he wants to leave given the opportunity he's had already, his age and Smith moved him to the front row
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| These young players are a challenge their development is seldom linear - as the club has seen with Cameron Smith. You would hope the club has sufficient internal knowledge to spot the talent - not many youngsters left Leeds and have a better career away. However looking the likes of Hall and Dupree maybe this is changing?
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| Yeah I don't think we can really claim that anymore. Mcshanes turned out well too.
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| Quote ="Seth"I'd be concerned about why he wants to leave given the opportunity he's had already, his age and Smith moved him to the front row'"
Probably got the ‘show me the money’ agent in his ear…..
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| We’ve benefited this year with Macdonnell when another big club with good youth set up simply can’t keep them all (as have warrington with Nicholson)
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| Quote ="christopher"We’ve benefited this year with Macdonnell when another big club with good youth set up simply can’t keep them all (as have warrington with Nicholson)'"
That is a fair point - If you look at the Wigan pack there are lot of home grown players especially in the 14-20 numbers
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| Quote ="christopher"We’ve benefited this year with Macdonnell when another big club with good youth set up simply can’t keep them all (as have warrington with Nicholson)'"
That is a fair point - If you look at the Wigan pack there are lot of home grown players especially in the 14-20 numbers
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| IIRC Leeds have a pay scale ie age and international player so GH wont be offering big money but it should be a decent offer.If the rumours about Saints are true then i would think they would have to at least match the hopefully Leeds offer.I can see a lower club offering large contract.
I think Walters should have played more when you look at the first 6 performances Lisone put in and of late Sangare has been ordinary.
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| Quote ="fanstanningley"IIRC Leeds have a pay scale ie age and international player so GH wont be offering big money but it should be a decent offer.If the rumours about Saints are true then i would think they would have to at least match the hopefully Leeds offer.I can see a lower club offering large contract.
I think Walters should have played more when you look at the first 6 performances Lisone put in and of late Sangare has been ordinary.'"
May have deserved to play more, but may not. A lot depends on training, and how the player conducts themselves. I’d trust Smith to make these calls…..
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| Quote ="Shabino"May have deserved to play more, but may not. A lot depends on training, and how the player conducts themselves. I’d trust Smith to make these calls…..'" Smith only said a few weeks ago Walters was training the house down.
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| Quote ="fanstanningley"Smith only said a few weeks ago Walters was training the house down.'"
That’s positive, the next thing is who’s ahead of him then, and who does Smith think can do a better job in his position….?
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| Maybe he sees a better pathway to first team football at Saints.
Or maybe he wants to be closer to home.
Or maybe he wants to win things regularly.
Could be a number of things.
But if the Saints rumours are true, then you can't really blame him.
Bizarrely, he'll probably get more game time there.
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| Quote ="fanstanningley"IIRC Leeds have a pay scale ie age and international player so GH wont be offering big money but it should be a decent offer.If the rumours about Saints are true then i would think they would have to at least match the hopefully Leeds offer.I can see a lower club offering large contract.
I think Walters should have played more when you look at the first 6 performances Lisone put in and of late Sangare has been ordinary.'"
Was a hard one with Lisone tbf because he clearly needed to play himself into some form and fitness and he wouldn’t have got that in the reserves .
Walters is obviously behind Holroyd, Mik, Tet, Sangare and Lisone. He’s rightly leapfrogged Donno and you perhaps can take Tet out of that list given he seems to be moving towards back row, and the fact he’s going home. I think it’s a bit strong to say that his route to the first team is blocked.
I get people saying that maybe he deserves the same chance to develop as sangare is being given, but I would hazard a guess that Smith sees their roles as different. Sangare and Lisone are very clearly impact props, where as I’d say Walters is probably being moulded more into the role of the other 3.
Also worth taking into account he may want to be closer to home.
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| Quote ="Barrie’s Glass Eye"Was a hard one with Lisone tbf because he clearly needed to play himself into some form and fitness and he wouldn’t have got that in the reserves .
Walters is obviously behind Holroyd, Mik, Tet, Sangare and Lisone. He’s rightly leapfrogged Donno and you perhaps can take Tet out of that list given he seems to be moving towards back row, and the fact he’s going home. I think it’s a bit strong to say that his route to the first team is blocked.
I get people saying that maybe he deserves the same chance to develop as sangare is being given, but I would hazard a guess that Smith sees their roles as different. Sangare and Lisone are very clearly impact props, where as I’d say Walters is probably being moulded more into the role of the other 3.
Also worth taking into account he may want to be closer to home.'"
Is Tet going home?
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| Quote ="Shabino"May have deserved to play more, but may not. A lot depends on training, and how the player conducts themselves. I’d trust Smith to make these calls…..'"
If the team were performing anywhere near their potential I would agree - but they were awful at Leigh, terrible at Cas, appalling against Hull, grim at Hull KR!!
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| Quote ="Zoo Zoo Boom"If the team were performing anywhere near their potential I would agree - but they were awful at Leigh, terrible at Cas, appalling against Hull, grim at Hull KR!!'"
This is true and I understand the need to keep a winning team that`s playing well.
But like you have said we have been awful for large parts this year and fringe players maybe should have been given more chance to impress.
Smith of course has to balance that notion with getting others such as Lisone fit.
But Walters didn`t let anyone down when he did play so not sure what the answer or problem is with Walters.
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