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| What I don’t understand is how a player is meant to pull out of a tackle they are already committed to, there should be some sort of time manner involved, it was half a second between Dwyer and the hit.
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| Quote ="Frosties."What I don’t understand is how a player is meant to pull out of a tackle they are already committed to, there should be some sort of time manner involved, it was half a second between Dwyer and the hit.'"
I agree to some extent.
How on earth can he stop in mid air unless he manages to do what others do when chasing down the kicker by giving them a bear hug type of thing.
Probably deserved the yellow in the current climate but should not receive a ban.
Bentley will get 4-5 games considering his previous.
Currie should be citied and get a couple of games.
Against Wigan I think our efforts Saturday plus injuries/suspensions probably means we will lose.
Walker
Briscoe
Broadbent
Sutcliffe
Handley
Austin
Sezer
Oledzki if fit
Leeming
Prior
Gannon
Mellor
Smith
Dwyer hopefully
Tetavano
Thompson
Donaldson
If Dwyer is banned and Oledzki injured we have a real problem.
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| Quote ="mattsrhinos1978"Which makes the lack of attention the match officials gave to Currys shoulder, knocking Fusitua out, even more baffling. If Dwyers 'late' hit is a yellow, Currys is a Yellow, at least. All these rules and cards are to protect players yet the most significant head impact in the whole game goes unpunished, shocking imo.
As already mentioned, no issues with Bentleys red, thats on him, his stupidity was rightly punished and he cost his team.'"
Completely agree with this mate.
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| Quote ="Frosties."What I don’t understand is how a player is meant to pull out of a tackle they are already committed to, there should be some sort of time manner involved, it was half a second between Dwyer and the hit.'"
Exactly. Widdop was running across the line, Dwyer was chasing to tackle and when the ball was released, Dwyer was behind him and already getting ready to tackle. I'm all for stamping the late hits out the game (I got a bad whiplash from being hit after passing)....but....players have to tackle. The speed of the game means decisions are split second. There wasn't any malice in the tackle, wasn't massively mistimed. Just a bit late. When I saw the Bentley Red, I thought it harsh. But after watching it back it was a fair call. I still think the yellow was harsh for Dwyer
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| I think a ban following a yellow is to act as a further deterrent. It isn’t a red card but they don’t want those tackles in the game so you will get a yellow and probably a ban for the next game. If you do that consistently then behaviours will change.
Those are the rules so follow them, it’s mindless to do it now.
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| Surprised tickets aren’t available yet, can you buy away tickets direct from Wigan?
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| Given the ‘clamp down’ I reckon Dwyer will get a 1 game ban, Bentley between 4-6 games
If any justice the Currie incident should also be picked up and deserves a ban but then again, Cullen is the head of the disciplinary panel….
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| Quote ="christopher"Surprised tickets aren’t available yet, can you buy away tickets direct from Wigan?'"
Other than on the [url=https://tickets.therhinos.co.uk/PagesPublic/ProductBrowse/ProductAway.aspx?ProductSubType=ALLeeds ticketing website?[/url
Looking forward to this, first home Wigan game I've been to in years thanks to the 150 mile round trip and usually working Fridays. Coworker's a Leeds fan and he's going as well, looking forward to giving him some banter during the week.
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| Quote ="CM Punk"Other than on the [url=https://tickets.therhinos.co.uk/PagesPublic/ProductBrowse/ProductAway.aspx?ProductSubType=ALLeeds ticketing website?[/url
Looking forward to this, first home Wigan game I've been to in years thanks to the 150 mile round trip and usually working Fridays. Coworker's a Leeds fan and he's going as well, looking forward to giving him some banter during the week.
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Couldn’t find them when i looked
I just hope the resilt is as good as the last 2 games there!
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| Quote ="cheekydiddles"Given the ‘clamp down’ I reckon Dwyer will get a 1 game ban, Bentley between 4-6 games
If any justice the Currie incident should also be picked up and deserves a ban but then again, Cullen is the head of the disciplinary panel….'"
If ever there was an ironic appointment it’s Cullen. More teeth in his forearms then most people have in their heads…
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| Quote ="cheekydiddles"Given the ‘clamp down’ I reckon Dwyer will get a 1 game ban, Bentley between 4-6 games
If any justice the Currie incident should also be picked up and deserves a ban but then again, Cullen is the head of the disciplinary panel….'"
I reckon Currie might well cop a ban too.
As for Cullen, I reckon the others on the panel likely have to remind him he's not there to award marks out of ten..
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| Quote ="The Magic Rat"The problem with the disciplinary giving a ban the following week, is why wasn't he sent off? It was suggested the ref didn't get a good look at the Austin one because he was concentrating on the tackle that followed. Fair enough, but what's the excuse this week. The officials saw it, it was on the screen and the 4th official presumably had an input. The reason that he wasn't sent off is because not a single person in the stadium thought it worthy of a red card. To then get a ban would be ridiculous. But I would not be surprised tbh.'"
Absolutely spot on
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| I would hope we will transition to Broadbent at left centre at some point soon, Briscoe and Suttcliffe are solid options but cant gelp feeling we would of got something from one of them late left hand side attacks if Broadbent was there instead of Suttcliffe.
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| So…
We’ll be without Dwyer, and obviously Bentley (for one and three games respectively)
Bentley doesn’t bother me were ok at SR even with Martin going home - Mellor and Gannon to start for me.
So we either run with one hooker or OConner on the bench, can we recall Johnson?
Myler surely wont be fit but hopefully Newman will be back. Fizzy could be out this week also?
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| Quote ="christopher"So…
We’ll be without Dwyer, and obviously Bentley (for one and three games respectively)
Bentley doesn’t bother me were ok at SR even with Martin going home - Mellor and Gannon to start for me.
So we either run with one hooker or OConner on the bench, can we recall Johnson?
Myler surely wont be fit but hopefully Newman will be back. Fizzy could be out this week also?
1. Walker
2. Briscoe
3. Newman/broadbent
4. Sutcliffe
5. Handley
6. Austin
7. Sezer
8. Oledski
9. Leeming
10. Prior
11. Gannon
12 Mellor
13. Smith
14. Tetevano
15. Thompson
16. Donaldson
17. Johnson/Oconner'"
Oledski is the big worry for me. Hope his knee is alright. Johnson, if we can get him back from Bradford, would give us more composure in the big moments. I think Fuzzy will definitely be missing. Real shame because he's a scary prospect for any defence.
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| No ban for currie, so the high shot that knocked someone out goes totally unpunished, why are we clamping down on head shots again? Player safety? Absolute farce. Cullens an absolute clown and the diciplinary not fit for purpose.
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| So Dwyer is banned. I agree we need to smarten up in this area, but a ban is a tough call imo and adds to the confusion why he wasn't sent off at the time. His offence deemed worse than the Currie one on Fusitua, and equal to Holmes on Donaldson.
Anyway onto Wigan and it would be nice to see Corey Johnson get a chance, but if he's playing tonight it seems likely O'Connor will be interchange Hooker. If he had have been fit I wonder if Myler would have filled in at 9.
Looking forward to it, but it feels like we are up against it a bit already. Partly self inflicted, granted.
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| Quote ="The Magic Rat"So Dwyer is banned. I agree we need to smarten up in this area, but a ban is a tough call imo and adds to the confusion why he wasn't sent off at the time. His offence deemed worse than the Currie one on Fusitua, and equal to Holmes on Donaldson.
Anyway onto Wigan and it would be nice to see Corey Johnson get a chance, but if he's playing tonight it seems likely O'Connor will be interchange Hooker. If he had have been fit I wonder if Myler would have filled in at 9.
Looking forward to it, but it feels like we are up against it a bit already. Partly self inflicted, granted.'"
I still think the squad above is capable of a win, bar prop we are better equipped this year to deal with players out.
Hope Fuzzy can play though, not sure what the protocols are with him not going off with a HIA
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| Yep, one game in and we are already bemoaning injuries and suspensions.
I guess this will be the case for most of the season.
Feels like we are better equipped this season to cope - apart from in the front row.
Surely, with Dwyer banned, we bring Johnson back straight away?
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| There is one element that all Rugby league supporters want in the game`s officiating and that is CONSISTENCY . It is not rocket science , but over the years , it really has been impossible to achieve , and the latest approach to head high contact just seems to be continuing this abject failure .
Whether intentional or not Currie concussed an opponent with contact to the head with his shoulder - how can that go unpenalised . In the Hudds v Toulouse game , Chris Hill catches an opposing forward flush on the chin with a swinging arm when making a tackle - missed by ref and linesman , but surely this has to be addressed by the Disciplinary.
I don`t like to see coaches having a go at officials , but when they are not doing their job, then they should kop for the criticism they deserve , until they get it right
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| Quote ="mattsrhinos1978"No ban for currie, so the high shot that knocked someone out goes totally unpunished, why are we clamping down on head shots again? Player safety? Absolute farce. Cullens an absolute clown and the diciplinary not fit for purpose.'"
Absolutely farcical
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| Quote ="mattsrhinos1978"No ban for currie, so the high shot that knocked someone out goes totally unpunished, why are we clamping down on head shots again? Player safety? Absolute farce. Cullens an absolute clown and the diciplinary not fit for purpose.'"
Only 2 games for Vete from Hull KR trying to snap Thornley's leg.
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| Quote ="christopher"I still think the squad above is capable of a win, bar prop we are better equipped this year to deal with players out.
Hope Fuzzy can play though, not sure what the protocols are with him not going off with a HIA'"
For concussion, it's an 11 day protocol, so out this week and back for Catalans
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| Quote ="christopher"I still think the squad above is capable of a win, bar prop we are better equipped this year to deal with players out.
Hope Fuzzy can play though, not sure what the protocols are with him not going off with a HIA'"
Yeah I agree, even with the players missing, that is a decent 17, especially if Newman is fit. Austin coming back helps with the expected loss of Myler. As well as Walker looked in his 1st game back I would like to see Myler given a go at fullback when Sezer and Austin are playing. He gives us a good link and we look more of a threat on attack with him at fullback imo.
I would be very surprised if Fuzzy plays, regardless of whether the regulations rule him out. Agar seemed to suggest that he was suffering from concussion in his post match press conference.
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| I could live with punishments meted out to those carded but the Currie one ... I can't spake.
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