To be 100% safe we need to win against London & one of either Salford or Warrington. London on Sunday is the most important game of the season so far.

A win we pick up the 2 points & stop a relegation rival from gaining any points this weekend, plus with our superior points difference we will be 90% safe barring a freakish set of results/score lines over the last 3 weekends.

Course it’s a must win. Beat London they cannot catch us, at best they could is equal us bit our points difference is insurmountable we would essentially we would have to lose both our last games by 60-70 points each and London would have to win both theirs by similar score line.
Just win this and even better hammer them. Jobs done.

No, Boxing Day is the next must win.

I agree.Hopefully we will win then Ward can get a full pre season in, strengthen the knee even more and then he will be ready for the first game.

Id say more than 90% safe if we win on Sunday and that's assuming the other teams below us all win. Bearing in mind both Wakefield and Hull KR have to pay London so there's at least 2 games there that one of our relegation rivals can't win - if you get what I mean

Oh and Id not play Ward this season, let hm get both his fitness and confidence back up to 100%

If Catalans beat HKR on Saturday (50/50 in my opinion) and we beat London then we are definitely safe. We would be 4 points clear of London and HKR with 2 games to go and they play each other so can't both get 4 points from those remaining 2 games.

On Saturday evening we will know if a win guarantees safety.

Wasn`t that said last season?
When does his contract run out?
I`m hoping he can get back to something like his best form but it is fast becoming a broken record now and for me he should be on a play and get paid contract next time round which won`t happen I know.

I can see Ward moving on and becoming successful

In another career?

Think Ward will be at Leeds next season but their is a conversation to be had with him because as I said a few week ago the impression I am getting is his injury is now more mental than physical now.

Which would surely be an illegal breach of employment contract, it is not his fault he has had a couple of serious injuries - baring in mind they were both different injuries (I think?)

Didn't Ben Currie go through similar at Warrington and they stuck by him.

Don’t see how it would be a breach of a contract he would have signed?

I don’t think that’s possible however as what you can put in a contract is controlled in some fashion at least by the RFL and I doubt there’s a contract like that for full time players.
From reading the Mason/Hudds tribunal notes I think it was either Fielden or Mason himself who was on a contract which would be increased if he played more games, so there’s obviously scope for some kind of salary vs appearances element in there.

Personally I think we should stick with Ward, I think it sends the wrong message at a time when we need to try and regain some standing in terms of reliability given that we’ve just sacked a load of coaches and moved on players such as Lolohea, Garbutt etc not to mention the Golding issue.
That doesn’t mean there shouldn’t be a reduction in contract value for Ward though.

That squad for Sunday looks strange and unbalanced to me. Dissapointed in that. Not sure why Peteru is not there considering what we need, and he is suited to that pitch. We have more second rowers in that squad than I have ever seen in any teams squad before.

i thought the same, but I thought the same against Huddersfield a few weeks back...

I was just having this conversation, given the amount of forwards we've chopped and changed this year and that pack is still way way below where it needs to be IMO.

Cuthbo has regained some form over the last few months and is going well. I'd expect him and Ava to start but then you're looking at only having Oledski on the bench who is an out and out prop and he hasnt played for a good few weeks now.

Expecting to see Donaldson/Ferres/JJB propping on Sunday which I think is a huge risk. Especially JJB considering his lack of game time. Agar mentioned attitude being big this week and that JJB could bring a lot on that front but I suspect the game will be very fast an open. Not sure JJB will be able to cope with that after such a spell without playing. Time will tell I suppose.

Also suspect we'll see Merrin at prop at some stage as well which is a complete waste.

Agree about Peteru maybe wrong but we seem to have ran with 3 props for the last few games.I expect Ferres to do a spell at prop.

Peteru is a waste of a quota spot. I was hoping Saints would rest players for the cup and we could knock them off, lose at London to get KR, Hudds or Wakey relegated and pinch their better players.

Where's your white cat and your undersea lair?

Just don't get running with only 1 bench prop each week when they've looked light and there's an option there with peteru. Oledzki hasnt played in weeks either so hes not going to be running at match fit. 7 backrowers in the squad (inc sutcliffe)is ridiculous.

From the 19 think we'll go with


Walker
L.Briscoe
Newman
Hurrell
Handley
Lui
Myler
Seamanufagai
Lunt
Cuthbertson
Ferres
Martin
Merrin


Subs

Dwyer
Sutcliffe
Oldezki
Donaldson

JJB has missed half of season and he's a legend of club but in these last few crunch games we need to go with our strongest 17 and he's way down the pecking order now, hopefully we have saved our skins by the time it comes to last game against wire so we can give him a good send off.

On paper our team should be good enough to do a good job on London but depends how we approach this game we start well and blow them out of park we could win between 20-30 points imo, but if we have a poor attitude towards this game like we've done against important games this season like the hull KR game at home several weeks back London are the sort of team that could turn us over which I really don't want to happen. Hopefully the team turn up Sunday ready to go and get vital 2 points that 99% makes us safe from drop.

Is Singleton still suspended? If not he’s the only prop I’d have in that team over the others.

Peteru might be called a prop but he doesn’t run like one. He’s done very little in the games I’ve seen so I can see the reasoning for going without him.

We are very short at prop. Thank god for Cuthbo and Ava.

I agree with what has been said about lack of big men but the team has obviously decided it's a plastic pitch and we need speed and mobility over size.

Have to hope it works out.

I might be in the minority but I rate Peteru, possesses a genuine go forward unlike the plodder Singleton.

Sits out his 2nd game of suspension. Peteru is no world beater in the middle but he offers more in that regard than sharing that work out between Donaldson and Ferres also more reliable than singleton and I'd be surprised to see much out of Oledzki on Sunday.

I do see a defeat coming on Sunday as it's last chance saloon for London and leeds haven't shown the mettle needed to go with a team who will roll their sleeves up for 80 minutes.

Looks like Giants are putting up a fight of their own.