Good start but we need a tough prop and a hard running back row.
With Ward being as injury prone as JJB was and Ferres seemingly always unfit isn't helped by the age of Ablett&JJB.

No use having good centres and half back if the pack is smashed every week

When I was at HQ today renewing my season ticket and saw Gary Hetherington. I shouted 'Good signing, Gary!'. He gave me a thumbs up.

What further guarantee of quality do you need??

Two thumbs up

I think he has looked OK too seems to be a fairly strong runner an has a bit of speed, I’m not overly worried about spending big for a winger we have bigger problems ti tackle before that IMO I’m happy to give Brisco s chance for next year

Fair point though I must admit, I'm looking forward to watching a side that offers a threat through both centres. Seems to be something we see less and less in the British game but when I cast my mind back to sides I've enjoyed watching most - not just talking Leeds here - they've always been strong in this regard.

They weren’t thumbs...

SL and especially Leeds do love big strong Centres. I can see him doing great.
It's just as I said, we are still missing a leader to guide and kick the team around the park. Will Myler or Lolohea be spending the off season learning those skills ?.

The forwards are the second biggest issue. We can cope with cuthbo being a bit lazy in defence if we are getting a roll on and he can use skills.
We can cope with injuries or abit of unfitness in Ward n Ferres if we have two good players to rotate them with. Atm it's JJB and Ablett.
Garbutt has done well and Singleton is ok. No idea on Peteru,see how he goes with a full off season and no injuries.
Mullally,Oledski,Crosby...I'm not sure on.

So as we are:

Walker; Briscoe Hurrell Watkins ???; Lolohea Myler; Cuthbertson Parcell Singleton; Ablett Ward; JJB.

Newman / Handley / Golding / Briscoe
Dwyer / Johnson
McLelland
Ferres / Sutcliffe / Trout / Sutcliffe
Garbutt / Peteru / Oledzki / Smith / Holroyd / McConnell / Dupree / Mustapha.

This is of course with Mullally, Walters and Ormondroyd leaving the club as rumoured

If that's our starting pack expect a long hard season similar to this year.

Dont think we can be serious contenders with a starting pack like that, with Hurrell and Lolohea signed we need to sign two forwards, prop and second row or 2 second rows for me, ward to 13 injury free of course.

L.Briscoe should be given a run outside Hurrell, Hurrell should create some space for him and tie in defenders, the concern could be defence, a savvy attack would try to get Hurrell to bite at a big hit and have a stronger winger hitting Briscoes inside shoulder, but that would take a decent couple of players to execute

This a good signing, I just hope he can stay fit and out of trouble.

He's going to be in for a shock on boxing day

Garbutt would be my first prop on the team sheet.if only he could stay fit he makes a massive difference. Our other props are average at best though, Oledzki will be a top quality player but a few seasons off yet. Back row is old and past it, Ward apart who is class but is in the same boat as Garbutt in that we can't rely on him playing most of a season.

Our greatest problem in the forwards is at prop. Garbutt cannot be relied upon to complete a full season at his weight. None of the others can make sufficient metres and break tackles. Peteru and Oledski show promise but we need another metre maker in the front row.

However I am still not sure who is going to be our playmaker as Myler cannot do it on his own.

We need a few in the pack.

I'd love to see

Peteru Parcell New prop
Ablett new back row
Ward

Then Garbutt,cuthbo,Ferres/ jjb and then Dwyer or utility back on the bench.

I would suggest he is going to have to be that man with Loloheia likely to start with him in the halves and i don't believe he offers a great deal beyond a running threat. It is not beyond him as we saw what he can do playing behind a confident team going forward most of the time in the first few months of the year.I'm hoping he gets the nod for England see how he handles that role at the highest level but playing behind a pack that will give him a chance.

Cuthbertson and Singleton as a starting front row is awful. Zero impact running the ball. Whilst it might cause gnashing of teeth amongst some fans I wouldn't be at all upset if Cuthbertson didn't see out his two year deal and we got a proper, no nonsense forward instead.

Singleton, Parcell, Garbutt
Peteru, New Singning
Ward

Cuthberson, Dwyer, Oledski/ new prop and Smith

Singleton shouldn't be above criticism either. He's 25 and played over 150 games. Like a few others he needs to step up to be in the first choice prop rotation or he'll find himself tumbling down the leagues.

Hurrell will be a great signing. It will mean Liam Sutcliffe will need to beef up and move to the back row if he is to stand any chance of getting in the team.

I’d like us to sign a prop next, has it been announced whether Crosby is staying or leaving? He’s ok but someone better would be ideal if we are to be contenders.

I'm probably in the minority, but I quite like Crosby.

Crosby at Wigan was a pretty decent prop, regularly won collisions and was a solid defender. What happened after that is tragic for him, and I hope he can recapture his previous form. If we believe he can we should give him another year, otherwise we need to be looking for a better replacement.

His attitude whilst on the field has given me enough hope that the better player is still in there, we just need to find him.

I agree.
Worth a punt next season. Not saying he should be 1st choice but definitely would have him in the squad and probably make the 17.

better 4th prop than mullally

Re Hurrell, reading the interview with the Titans coach makes it clear he didn't want him to leave, but also that the whole thing has been done in the last couple of weeks. Given that he was under contract at the Titans I can only think Furner has been directly involved.

Whilst hurrell might not be the most talented player in terms of passing, he'll add to the general level of entertainment for Leeds and Sl as a whole. I hope Lolohea can do the same. Will you get to see the Aus-Tonga test in England?

Yes it’s on sky Saturday morning. Can’t wait to see our new signings!

Now we have two international centres, it’s really interesting what will happen with Sutcliffe. He’s got to be BR bound hasn’t he ?