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| Quote ="rollin thunder"Announcing this now, puts a line in the sand for the players, they need to up their performance and impress the new coach.'"
Need to up there performance to impress a new coach? If making sure the biggest club in the country dosnt get relegated isnt enough to get them to up there performance, announceing a new coach isnt going to. Anyways, we'r starting to get away from my original point that i would assume announceing it now would mean Furner would be coming regardless of which league we'r in, Peter Smith has now confirmed that.
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"I would've rather had Griffin as I wanted a coach with no previous connection with Leeds, but this is still a great appointment on the face of it. He has experience at all levels of the game as a player and a coach, and there's not many current coaches you can say that about.
Now for 4 or 5 new players - minimum!'"
I know what you mean however I don’t think his connection to Leeds matters in this case. I think there’s only Sinfield and Burrow at Leeds now who was there when Furner played so it’s not like he’s going to feel any attachment/loyalty to any of the current squad or anything.
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| Quote ="Him"I know what you mean however I don’t think his connection to Leeds matters in this case. I think there’s only Sinfield and Burrow at Leeds now who was there when Furner played so it’s not like he’s going to feel any attachment/loyalty to any of the current squad or anything.'"
Jamie Jones was there. He was in the 2004 final.
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| Quote ="Him"I know what you mean however I don’t think his connection to Leeds matters in this case. I think there’s only Sinfield and Burrow at Leeds now who was there when Furner played so it’s not like he’s going to feel any attachment/loyalty to any of the current squad or anything.'"
Chev Walker. And unfortunately Davidson.
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| JJB can do another season if we also recruit well. We need his enthusiasm and line speed, even if he doesn’t play every week. We need some pretty big changes but also some players who know what it means to play at Leeds and more importantly win at Leeds to show some of the younger players what is expected of them.
Loyalty to JJB will be far from Furner’s mind. Creating a winning mentality will be his priority.
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| Quote ="HucknallLoiner"JJB can do another season if we also recruit well. We need his enthusiasm and line speed, even if he doesn’t play every week. We need some pretty big changes but also some players who know what it means to play at Leeds and more importantly win at Leeds to show some of the younger players what is expected of them.
Loyalty to JJB will be far from Furner’s mind. Creating a winning mentality will be his priority.'"
JJB is a champion player and an even better bloke but he really needs to finish.
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| Quote ="Towns88"JJB is a champion player and an even better bloke but he really needs to finish.'"
It will be interesting as to what players are brought in and who are moved on .I think it will be into Furners second season before we get a settled team . If It's true that Furner was instrumental in the signing of that new halfback he could be recommending a few more . I think he will be looking at videos of this years games .
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| I’m hoping Davd Furner can find Liam Sutcliffe’s position and really help him kick on. He’s got plenty of potential but not currently living up to it. Playing full back, centre, back row and stand off he hasn’t really given the opportunity to progress.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"I’m hoping Davd Furner can find Liam Sutcliffe’s position and really help him kick on. He’s got plenty of potential but not currently living up to it. Playing full back, centre, back row and stand off he hasn’t really given the opportunity to progress.'"
Perhaps it has to be accepted that Sutcliffe simply isn't good enough to play in an elite SL team?
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"Perhaps it has to be accepted that Sutcliffe simply isn't good enough to play in an elite SL team?'"
That is more likely. Anyone with so called “potential” shows it at some point. Look how many games he has had. He is a bang average wannabe and nothing more. Should not be a position in a top club for that level player, when s promising youngster could easily fill that role.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"That is more likely. Anyone with so called “potential” shows it at some point. Look how many games he has had. He is a bang average wannabe and nothing more. Should not be a position in a top club for that level player, when s promising youngster could easily fill that role.'"
Should fit in well then as at the moment you are not a top club.
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| For me Golding is the player that needs a clear development path - he has so much talent it would be tragic if he isn't given a platform to achieve.
Walker is a better FB so Golding needs to accommodated elsewhere
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| Quote ="Keiththered"Should fit in well then as at the moment you are not a top club.'"
We are a top club, we are not a top team, get it right. We have it in us with changes, to challenge at the top. Other clubs, who are not top clubs, do not have it in them. There is a difference.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"We are a top club, we are not a top team, get it right. We have it in us with changes, to challenge at the top. Other clubs, who are not top clubs, do not have it in them. There is a difference.'"
Exactly, 2 challenge cups and two titles in previous 4 seasons a bad s asin in between and a bad season this season, fanciful thinking ng from fans of other clubs praying for our decline. We will be back in contention and winning trophies next 2 seasons.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"That is more likely. Anyone with so called “potential” shows it at some point. Look how many games he has had. He is a bang average wannabe and nothing more. Should not be a position in a top club for that level player, when s promising youngster could easily fill that role.'"
I try not to write off young players but unfortunately it is looking that way.
I wonder if Stevie Ward could make the move to centre. It might lesson his workload and so hopefully reduce his injuries and also have him more scope to show the attacking skills he has.
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| One of Stevie Ward’s strengths is the work load he can get through. He’s certainly not a centre.
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| Not sure if Ward has the pace to be centre. I'd rather see him used in an earlier-career Sinfield-style role that would allow us to make use of his defence in the middle, not to mention his other attacking skills, but crucially requiring him to take fewer collisions with the ball in hand.
Overall, I'm happy for Furner to come in and decide who is up to it and who isn't, hopefully without interference from other influences at the club.
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| Furners responsible for south sydneys attack. A big part of that attack, especially the left side, which has tore teams apart all season, relies on having a ball playing second row. John Sutton has been that player for Souths, he plays like a 2nd stand off when they put there set plays on. Imo stevie ward would be ideal to play that role for us, he's got a load of skills that we havnt seen enough of at first team level. Cam Smith would also do well in that role.
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1icon_biggrin.gifave Furner
He has done his apprenticeship in the NRL and has studied under some of the games best coaches
IMO he is ready to show his talents as a head coach again after his tough spell at the Raiders.
Furner also impressed the Rhinos hierarchy with his professionalism and attitude during his spell at the club and that will be an important factor when they compile their list of potential candidates
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1icon_biggrin.gifave Furner
He has done his apprenticeship in the NRL and has studied under some of the games best coaches
IMO he is ready to show his talents as a head coach again after his tough spell at the Raiders.
Furner also impressed the Rhinos hierarchy with his professionalism and attitude during his spell at the club and that will be an important factor when they compile their list of potential candidates
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"For me Golding is the player that needs a clear development path - he has so much talent it would be tragic if he isn't given a platform to achieve.
Walker is a better FB so Golding needs to accommodated elsewhere'"
Has Golding ever played at centre?
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| I think Sutcliffe will retain the number 4 shirt, not saying he should but I think he will, he actually did show a fair bit of promise at the back end of last year in that position
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| Quote ="christopher"I think Sutcliffe will retain the number 4 shirt, not saying he should but I think he will, he actually did show a fair bit of promise at the back end of last year in that position'"
I could live with this, provided he shows some improvement as a centre. Just keep him away from the halves.
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| Furner needs to be able to be utterly ruthless where required, and that means the club backing him regardless of which favourites are dropped or moved on. The only limitation should be our ability to replace players, which will hamper how many changes can be made.
Its that limit on the number of players we can bring in (and not being able to ship out players on contract) that will mean we'll probably have to find a spot for the likes of Sutcliffe. But its about time he (and some others) realised he needs to step up massively if he wants to stay beyond that.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"Has Golding ever played at centre?'"
Is he big enough? looking at Peachy at the Panthers he isn't that big but he is very effective
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