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| Were in no position to throw a game. We've had a horrendous year. McDermott threw the Wigan game in 16 and we still ended getting mullered by Hull in the semi final.
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| I would possibly give Walker and Ward the week off, the rest of the first choice available should play
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| Momentum is a strong ally in sport and we need to start building it. I bet there's no players asking for a rest, they'll be wanting to get going again asap
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| Quote ="christopher"I would possibly give Walker and Ward the week off, the rest of the first choice available should play'"
Why would Ward need a week off - he hardly ever plays
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| Quote ="Bang"Were in no position to throw a game. We've had a horrendous year. McDermott threw the Wigan game in 16 and we still ended getting mullered by Hull in the semi final.'"
Totally agree !
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| Sinfield expects Ward and Ferres to miss the game and possibly Ablett and Garbutt. He thinks everyone else bar Watkins who’s been missing will return. Crosby and Thompson ineligible.
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Briscoe Sutcliffe Handley Hall
Moon Myler
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| an embarrassing stuffing on national tv awaits
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| Quote ="tad rhino"an embarrassing stuffing on national tv awaits'"
I'd like to think that Leeds fans will still turn up in numbers whatever they think the result 'might be'. This is a unique occasion with the two semis back-to-back. Wire's form has been up and down all season and Leeds have beaten us before when, on paper, we were favourites (notably the 2012 GF) .
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| It's pretty unlikely anyway but actually a good part of me doesn't want us to win this.
For me we need to be 100% focused on the Middle 8s. I know many people on here think we'll be fine but honestly I don't really share that confidence at the moment. A CC Final would be a huge distraction from the main task of surviving in SL.
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| You don't want us to win?
You liar.
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| Quote ="Bang"You don't want us to win?
You liar.'"
You can kind of see his point though. Recent history suggests that whenever we get to Wembley we struggle the game before the final resting players and then have a major slump post-Wembley
IF we were to suffer such a post Wembley slump (assuming we can even get there) then IMO there would be every chance of it getting squeaky bum time in terms of maintaining the required position in the top 3.
Don't forget last time we ventured into the middle 8's we went in as one of the form teams in SL just prior to the split and with a fully fit squad, whereas this time we go into them as one of the poorest teams in terms of recent form and having just been thrashed by a very very poor SL team....who only had 12 men
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| Quote ="cheekydiddles"You can kind of see his point though. Recent history suggests that whenever we get to Wembley we struggle the game before the final resting players and then have a major slump post-Wembley
IF we were to suffer such a post Wembley slump (assuming we can even get there) then IMO there would be every chance of it getting squeaky bum time in terms of maintaining the required position in the top 3.
Don't forget last time we ventured into the middle 8's we went in as one of the form teams in SL just prior to the split and with a fully fit squad, whereas this time we go into them as one of the poorest teams in terms of recent form and having just been thrashed by a very very poor SL team....who only had 12 men'"
Absolutely can see what he meant. We have weakened squad with injuries already. The last thing we need is to lose more of the squad in a chase after the CC. Our only priority now should be ensuring our superleague survival.
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| Nah, go full tilt. Tired of the McDermott-esque philosophy of peaking, targeting certain games etc. Rather watch a side try to win them all for a while, regardless of whether they do or not
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| Is it just me that seems to think Delaney is always fit for the big games such as a semi final or final but misses the other games in abundance?
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| Can't understand the mentality of not wanting us to win any game never mind a Challenge Cup Semi Final.
What type of fan wants us to lose? Madness.
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| To me it’s not a choice, win the semi and get relegated or lose the semi and stay up. We could win the semi (and the cup) and stay up, or lose on Sunday and still go down.
We have to try to win every game.
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"Can't understand the mentality of not wanting us to win any game never mind a Challenge Cup Semi Final.
What type of fan wants us to lose? Madness.'"
Because these middle 8s could decide the future of the entire club, winning the Challenge Cup is utterly irrelevant this season, unfortunately. Leeds Rhinos’s priority should be maintaining SL status
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| Quote ="christopher"Because these middle 8s could decide the future of the entire club, winning the Challenge Cup is utterly irrelevant this season, unfortunately. Leeds Rhinos’s priority should be maintaining SL status, im not saying they should throw the game, wha I am saying is it isn’t a priority '"
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| Our record since Sinfield returns is lost one, won one against sides we'll face in the 8s. Its not that long ago people were saying we'd easily avoid M8s by beating Hudds and Cats. Then it became beating Wakefield, Widnes and Salford. We've failed on all fronts so far, and the only SL side we have the right to be confident of beating is Widnes. Salford just beat us and KR have improved as well.
The Wire semi will be interesting. If we get hammered then it shows the problem is lack of quality, which is a real worry. If we play well or even win then it suggests the problem is as much attitude as anything else. Almost regardless, assuming we survive a big change in personnel is needed over the next couple of seasons.
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| Quote ="christopher"Because these middle 8s could decide the future of the entire club, winning the Challenge Cup is utterly irrelevant this season, unfortunately. Leeds Rhinos’s priority should be maintaining SL status'"
No it won’t - it will be blip that can easily be recovered from by a club the size of Leeds.
The focus should be on winning every game regardless of the competition
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"No it won’t - it will be blip that can easily be recovered from by a club the size of Leeds.
The focus should be on winning every game regardless of the competition'"
i agree, all this relegation talk from some fans is almost like they are willing us to fail so they can go "i told you so" the middle 8's are a new competition now, previous form can be somewhat disregarded our season now restarts Sunday with the semis, and the players, club coaching staff all no this.
we will win 5-6 games minimun in the 8's people are massively over estimated the other sides, Hull Kr are the biggest threat to us winning the middle 8's but cannot see anything else other than a few close calls, it wont be easy we will get some battles, but the club is primed and ready to go, watch us fly.
and it will be very close on Sunday and i think we will sneak it, and that will give us a big confidence boost.
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"Can't understand the mentality of not wanting us to win any game never mind a Challenge Cup Semi Final.
What type of fan wants us to lose? Madness.'"
It's pathetic.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"To me it’s not a choice, win the semi and get relegated or lose the semi and stay up. We could win the semi (and the cup) and stay up, or lose on Sunday and still go down.
We have to try to win every game.'"
Fully agree.
At the very least we have to put in a performance full of commitment against Warrington to try and build some much needed momentum and regain some confidence and self respect. It is our last chance this season for silverware and much needed income from a Wembley appearance.
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| Interesting to read that as part of its' facilities the stadium has a Quiet Room
"There is a quiet room available should anyone wish to use this space for practising multi-faith or quiet reflection. If you need to use this room, please alert your nearest steward who will direct you to this room."
Think Sinny and GH will be in their pre-match, with 6000 Rhinos Fans queueing to get in after them.
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| To be fair, meditation should be a regular part of everyone's routine
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