If it's you, definitely!

On this I have to agree. There are some who will engage in polite debate, but it soon descends into a typical Houses of Parliament exchange at its most edifying ....my suit is better than yours at its best.

I wonder if Stevosfalseteeth was proclaiming Ferres to be far better than anything Wigan has to offer before Leeds signed him

I've always rated Ferres highly as a player. I wanted him when he was at Cas Vegas.

You all owe the Wigan fans an apology.

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I'm just thankful that I rarely have to journey south of the River Aire these days.

That's a troll BTW.

It was me that started the thread when Ferres' deal to NRL fell through. Remember? When no other Rhinos fan wanted us to go near him.

Wrong. I remember the thread and i was fully behind us going in for him. I would say it was 50/50 split on here TBH.

Can't dispute that at the minute

Halves based on that Williams is a true No. 7 not 6. McGuire can sit in either of these positions. O'Loughlin is over rated? Oh man you must be joking. Sure he is slowing a bit but i doubt many players like running at him or like to see him running at them. If you are referring to Ferres then yes i have left him out purely on the basis that i think Bateman and Farrell are better. Just my opinion. Plus his off the field activities wouldn't do the morale of the team any good. All i have read about Ferres on this forum since he played his first game for you is about how crap he has been. Bateman and Farrell have been fine for us. You can't have your bread buttered on both sides. He is either world class because he performed against New Zealand's 'B' team or he is dross because he has under performed against Widnes, Warrington and Catalans.

I expect nothing less from you AP

I blocked OP, as i can't waste valuable time reading his inane posts... Suggest you do the same..

Agree. Though i got a thread deleted on the Wigan board similar to this just for asking a similar question. Suppose its the nature of the beast nest pas?

It is the nature of the closeted RL community unfortunately.

It likes to whinge and whine and be parochial and take the pee out of others.

Extremely precious though. Doesn't like it back at and is easily offended.

I've not noticed any threads deleted...

all big bullies, booooooo...

you have a point, i havn't seen a post from him that isn't an obvious troll attempt.

If you think this forum is bad, have a look at the Sin Bin and Mugwump's crazed ravings having taken over the place.

It was a thread to discuss Phil Clarkes comments that Wigan were bottlers if they lost another GF. Two or three comments then deleted.

Just had a look for the first time in years, and f*ck me, what's happened there? And we thought Jeff's gone a bit insane...

Between O'Loughlin and Pryce, you have the two most overrated RL players of the last 20 years right there.

- oh, with a smattering of Andy Farrell too - make that 3.

Is it based on form, potential or the heights we know they can reach?

I'f you're looking at their past history, I'd have Moon over Gelling. Whilst Gelling can do the spectacular, he's too unpredictable and can cost you the game. I'd also put McIllorum at hooker. As for the back 3, I agree with O'Loughlin and Bateman, but not sure about Farrell.

Having said all that. It's only opinions. Not sure why people have to act like it's a personal attack on a loved one.

Funny how the game prides itself on fans getting on...wouldn't think it looking on here.

Also don't get why people like to just come on to wind others up. Don't know about you, but my time is too precious to waste it just ing people off and looking for a reaction.

I agree that nobody would fancy running at O'Loughlin. But that's only because nobody wants to have their nose splattered WWE style. Ferres has not been poor. His work rate is outstanding, and he's had to do a hell of a lot of defence because we are missing a hooker, Ward and Ablett. Bateman is OK, but he was poor against "New Zealand B' (as you call it.) Ferres is England's 2nd rower, Bateman isn't. We'll leave it at that eh.