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| Quote ="thebloodbath"What's the average tenure for a Super League coach? 2-3 years?
It's traditionally a short space of time for a reason. He's done his time for me, if a option to take us forward is available i would look at it.
Under Mac's tenure, you can't fault his return in terms of trophies. But the quality of rugby (i.e. value for money of a season ticket, quality of games and enjoyment) hasn't been great.'"
What is the average tenure for a premier league manager. Ferguson, Wenger and Moyes (at least until he got to United) have by far exceeded it by being successful at a top club. (Edit - forget the top club bit for Moyes)
I don't see what opportunities there will be for McD, except for England job, but that is a part time position which I doubt would suit him unless he was being pushed. Similar to the players it's a call that needs to be made, but GH is loyal to those around him and I'm not sure he's ready to make that call yet.
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"Yeah, hence the term hot sh*t. Gentle sandercock and parish were recruited by mediocre clubs, Maguire was by a club that knew what they were doing.'"
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"Wigan were a mediocre club at the time.'"
No they weren't. Leneghan had taken over by then.
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| Quote ="finglas"What is the average tenure for a premier league manager. Ferguson, Wenger and Moyes (at least until he got to United) have by far exceeded it by being successful at a top club. (Edit - forget the top club bit for Moyes)
I don't see what opportunities there will be for McD, except for England job, but that is a part time position which I doubt would suit him unless he was being pushed. Similar to the players it's a call that needs to be made, but GH is loyal to those around him and I'm not sure he's ready to make that call yet.'"
Bearing in mind what people are saying about B Mc 'picking his favourites, rather than on form' if he were England manager, I'd look forward to seeing Danny Mc, JJB, Sinners, Briscoe, Bailey and Kirke all in an England jersey!
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"Wigan were a mediocre club at the time.'"
Not sure how you get that. We were a semi finals team, having been knocked out in the semis on 5/6 opportunities for both comps between '07 and '09 and only four points off the grand final in '08 and '09. Obviously we weren't where we wanted to be but we weren't that far away from competing for trophies as the two Hulls and Salford are
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| We missed the boat with Powell but Rowley is doing a great job at Leigh would Tim Sheens or Kearney be interested in a return to Club Coaching?
Furner and Dunneman have been mentioned previously unless you ask you don't/won't know who is "available"!
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| Other than a sentimental connection to Leeds in the distant past, what makes Dunneman and Furner the right men for the job? Seeing as they played with several members of the current squad who are arguably not pulling their weight, I don't think this would be a good idea at present.
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| Bright young table-topping NRL assistant with plenty of experience of Super League? Steve McNamara!
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| Tim sheens - now that would be a bit left field - greatest signing this club would ever make. If he spent three years here the club would be transformed.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Sinfield as already advised the club of retiring end of 2016, and is not having anything at all to do with coaching. That he is clear on.'"
Does he have outside interests? Or do people think he will go work at another club, would be a terrible shame if RL lost him...
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| thought most non leeds fans thought he was slow and hugely over rated?
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| Sheens would want to restructure the club from top to bottom, no way will Hetherington allow that, either financially or in terms of personnel.
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"Does he have outside interests? Or do people think he will go work at another club, would be a terrible shame if RL lost him...'"
Gotcha seems to know some of the staff at Leeds better than I do, hence may have more recent info, but I read an interview in which KS stated he was more interested in the administrative/business side of the game.
Maybe he's fat enough and slow enough to be the new Nigel Wood?
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| Furner is a good shout.What quality coach out there would fancy the re build though as once the exodus of the old guard happens there reputation could be under serious scrutiny.A bit like Man u when Fergie left, only one way to go it aint up.
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| Furner was dire at the Raiders. Sheens won the comp with the Tigers but let the team slide into mediocrity whilst at the same time allowing player-power (and cliques) develop - exactly what you'd want to avoid at Leeds.
Oddly I think BM could be the right coach going forward. He's shown he's a strong character, which is what's needed if/when older players need to be pushed rather than wait for them to realise they're past it.
Having said that, a lot depends on GH and BM having some kind of succession plan for key players, which we haven't really seen any great signs of as yet.
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"Furner was dire at the Raiders. Sheens won the comp with the Tigers but let the team slide into mediocrity whilst at the same time allowing player-power (and cliques) develop - exactly what you'd want to avoid at Leeds.
Oddly I think BM could be the right coach going forward. He's shown he's a strong character, which is what's needed if/when older players need to be pushed rather than wait for them to realise they're past it.
Having said that, a lot depends on GH and BM having some kind of succession plan for key players, which we haven't really seen any great signs of as yet.'" fwiw I wouldnt be against mcdermitt staying. His record at leeds is good. I do think we need a new approach to games and to the season as a whole. I think he at least needs s number 2
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| Quote ="craigizzard"Bright young table-topping NRL assistant with plenty of experience of Super League? Steve McNamara!
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Seems to know how to use Kallum Watkins though.
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"What's the average tenure for a Super League coach? 2-3 years?
It's traditionally a short space of time for a reason.
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And what is that reason?
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| I have no complaints whatsoever with what the incumbent players or coach have offered, and I have no problem with them having another go. But, in an ideal world, I (for the first time in several years) feel like the set up looks in need of a bit of refreshing. Meaning either a new option at half, or a new set of ideas from a new coach. Not both. Neither of which reflects any real fault of the people in those positions, just that things seem a bit stale.
In either case, it would depend on what's available to come in. A breath of fresh air is good. Replacing people who have delivered unprecedented success with any old dross is not good.
I am not convinced there is going to be the right quality available at the moment.
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| Quote ="El Diablo"I have no complaints whatsoever with what the incumbent players or coach have offered, and I have no problem with them having another go. But, in an ideal world, I (for the first time in several years) feel like the set up looks in need of a bit of refreshing. Meaning either a new option at half, or a new set of ideas from a new coach. Not both. Neither of which reflects any real fault of the people in those positions, just that things seem a bit stale.
In either case, it would depend on what's available to come in. A breath of fresh air is good. Replacing people who have delivered unprecedented success with any old dross is not good.
I am not convinced there is going to be the right quality available at the moment.'"
Agree with this. Personally I would like to see a minimum of a decent assistant coach brought in, with some fresh ideas,
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| I would like to see some new fresh attacking ideas getting fed up of seeing the cross field kick to the corner and the up and under...........its becoming boring and predictable............
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| Bearing in mid some of the big games we continue to win under McDermott's leadership, it's clear he's tactically astute and can come up with a gameplan when needed. The players also clearly respect him. The most sensible of the suggestions i've seen on here is that a good assistant coach might be needed. Coach being the operative word.
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| Brett Kimmorley please!
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| On what evidence - that he was a good player?
If you go to Australia for a coach, you need to do your research. Just because someone's a good assistant doesn't mean they'll make a good first team coach. Sometimes luck is involved too - Maguire was very highly rated and Wigan got him because it was probably a year or so too early for an NRL club to take a punt on him.
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| Quote ="Ferdy"Agree with this. Personally I would like to see a minimum of a decent assistant coach brought in, with some fresh ideas,'"
Suspect we'd need some fresh players for this to work. Given the age-related limitations of some of our players, would they be able to implement anything much different to what they do currently?
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