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| Ablett to centre then to allow Moon to rest/recover?
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| Quote ="Old Feller"Ablett to centre then to allow Moon to rest/recover?'"
It's not a bad option to consider. Stevie Ward to centre is!
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| Looking forward to tonight actually.
Hopefully a decent enough crowd followed by a good performance in the Sun!
Can't beat Headingley on days like this!
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| Yup, agreed.
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| Bailey dropped again.
Surprised McGuire wasn't as well though.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Bailey dropped again.
Surprised McGuire wasn't as well though.'"
Probably injury for Bailey, McDermott said he picked up a groin injury vs Wakey.
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| Sounds like a real thriller...
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| Both bailey and singleton were both said to be fit and just not selected. Good to see mulhern get more game time tonight.
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| Not according to McDermott. Bailey injured with a groin strain. I think Singleton was dropped for Mulhern.
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| Yeh just heard that myself I just read one of Pete smiths tweets at half time at the game, saying both were fit and just not selected.
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| Groin strain was the excuse previously as well.
What a load of crap that was. Poor quality for 60 mins then suddenly we get try's. Should never have been more than 10 points between us. Most flattering scoreline I have ever seen. Bentham shocking with some really poor decisions, but won't complain too much as Hull KR only got one pen, which was ridiculous.
Walters brought back down to earth today. Looked well out of his depth this match. To be honest, I can only say Sinfield and Burrow were the only ones to really shine, didn't see anything great elsewhere.
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| Welcome back Robbie Burrow.
It wasn't even a game of two halves, more like a game of one quarter.
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| So we only turn up for 20 mins and get 5 tries. Didn't sounds to too bad. Better than being poor for 3 quarters and losing
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| Bailey was injured McDermott has said post match, put his hand up to play but McDermott decided not to risk him. Singleton just wasn't selected. Sounds like everybody barring Clarkson (and obviously Yates) has a chance of making the Cas game.
Strange game tonight. We didn't have any points after 60 mins but thought we were much improved in attack compared to recent weeks in attacking as a team instead of in ones. Where we went wrong was trying to leave the pass too late too often and thus HKR hands got to knock the ball down (Bentham btw came up with some baffling calls tonight regarding who touched the ball) or wrap the attacker up straight away. Just one of those things that can happen when the form has been scratchy and you try force your way into form.
No doubt we'll have the "attack was rubbish" by some on here due to the fact we took so long to score but sometimes you have to look at the opposition and HKR deserve credit for an impressive defensive showing for 60 minutes. Had a feeling once the dam broke though that another couple of tries would follow.
Defence was also much much better barring that 5 minutes around when they got a try, which was a sloppy one to concede, think heads switched off thinking job was done after 3 quick scores.
What the game lacked was for a player to take the game by the scruff of the neck and make it his, Watkins looked close to doing so but his opposite numbers did well enough to not let him completely run riot. Eventually Burrow became the game breaker and would've been MOM even without any sentimentality about his comeback match. Briscoe I thought had an improved showing tonight and Sinfield and McGuire played well too.
Tonight showed how much we've missed Burrow, and keeping Aiton out there at the same time is a good option as you don't lose the ton of defence he gets though. Add Hardaker next week and that final 20 minutes allowing us to get a bit of confidence and a bit of a groove going then could well be the start of the upward curve we've been waiting for.
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| Nah the attack was rubbish.
What changed it was Burrow starting to run at the defence and taking the attacking line forward. That dragged players with it who would normally have just been stood there not offering support. And so we then had a half taking on the line with support runners. That seemed to spark us into action and for the final 15/20 mins or so I thought we looked very good.
I'd agree with Gotcha that Sinfield & Burrow were the best for us, I'd also say Sutcliffe did well out of position at full back.
I'd say the whole team did well in defence though, especially Briscoe who saved us a couple of times from KR short kicks.
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| No the attack wasn't rubbish. Not saying it was great btw, as I pointed out too much was forced but in terms of where we were recently....attacking in ones, then it was improved. It was always going to be a case of grinding our way back into form in that department. Also people asked for Watkins to see more ball and he did clearly tonight.
Agree about Sutcliffe, actually felt more secure with him back there fielding kicks than when BJB does.
Just turned my head when the BJB/Lovegrove incident happened, what exactly occurred as it didn't show a reply but the results didn't look too clever afterwards.
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No it'll be wrong, the Leeds Twitter feed has it as Burrow moved into 7th place tonight going ahead of Pat Richards. God knows where BBC came up with that.
EDIT - actually 8th on the list. Ryan Hall has passed both Burrow and Richards this year.
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No it'll be wrong, the Leeds Twitter feed has it as Burrow moved into 7th place tonight going ahead of Pat Richards. God knows where BBC came up with that.
EDIT - actually 8th on the list. Ryan Hall has passed both Burrow and Richards this year.
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Yes, that's the BBC getting it wrong. Burrow went to 7th in the SL tryscorer lists tonight, replacing Pat Richards.
McGuire, Senior and Wellens are 1,2,3. Prize* if you name the others without googling.
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Yes, that's the BBC getting it wrong. Burrow went to 7th in the SL tryscorer lists tonight, replacing Pat Richards.
McGuire, Senior and Wellens are 1,2,3. Prize* if you name the others without googling.
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| Watkins , burrow ,sinfield were top players tonight with Hall solid as ever , Danny had his best game for a while running at the line alot more , Peacock was immense again .
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"
Just turned my head when the BJB/Lovegrove incident happened, what exactly occurred as it didn't show a reply but the results didn't look too clever afterwards.'"
Just poor technique from Lovegrove. Stopped watching the ball and just went for the man. Got the timing all wrong and ended up clattering both himself and BJB. Wasn't malicious just poor tech which he paid for.
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| Welcome back Captain Kev and Burrow, gosh we needed you.
An absolutely dire hour. Wish I'd been an hour late. Two awful teams but Leeds remembered how to play whilst KR didn't.
Watkins was a constant threat and McGuire was much better.
2 points, erase that shizzle from the ,memory and look forward to the Cas match.
Not having a dig at McDermott but can anyone help me understand the tactic of making two substitutions within 4 mins of the start of the 2nd half?
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"No the attack wasn't rubbish. Not saying it was great btw, as I pointed out too much was forced but in terms of where we were recently....attacking in ones, then it was improved. It was always going to be a case of grinding our way back into form in that department. Also people asked for Watkins to see more ball and he did clearly tonight.
Agree about Sutcliffe, actually felt more secure with him back there fielding kicks than when BJB does.
Just turned my head when the BJB/Lovegrove incident happened, what exactly occurred as it didn't show a reply but the results didn't look too clever afterwards.'"
I really do think the attack was very poor for the first hour or so, certainly the first half.
I thought we attacked just like we did last week. Slowly, in ones with no/little support, the passing was slow and inaccurate, and we didn't want to run onto the ball or run from deep. We also seemed to have a tactic of Ward being 3rd receiver very flat to the line that didn't really work at all. All it meant was he was under pressure when he received the ball stood still and so either got tackled or rushed to get a poor pass away.
In the 2nd half/last 20 we were miles better. Halves taking on the line and taking the attack forward, support runners, players running from deep, forwards running into the ball and making inroads.
If we'd played like we did in the last 20 for the whole game we'd have stuck 50/60 on them and the same last week v Wakey.
The defence kept us in it and fortunately the attack appeared at the end, like the cavalry in a Western, to save the day. If KR had scored once or twice in that first hour i don't think we'd have won.
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| How much did we miss Burrow, he was the ONLY dangerous player in attack and we need him to confuse and scatter defense, otherwise it seems we can't make line breaks.
What were our tactics exactly ? bore the opposition with "1up" rugby for an hour until they got tired and the flood gates opened.
What has happened to the great attack we had at the start of the season.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"No the attack wasn't rubbish. Not saying it was great btw, as I pointed out too much was forced but in terms of where we were recently....attacking in ones, then it was improved. It was always going to be a case of grinding our way back into form in that department. Also people asked for Watkins to see more ball and he did clearly tonight.
Agree about Sutcliffe, actually felt more secure with him back there fielding kicks than when BJB does.
Just turned my head when the BJB/Lovegrove incident happened, what exactly occurred as it didn't show a reply but the results didn't look too clever afterwards.'"
The attack was absolutely rubbish for 60 mins of that game, not sure why you want to defend the indefensible. You have said it twice now, and have no agreement. Any side, not even top sides, with that amount of territory and possession should be running in tries, we didn't even look like it for three quarters of that match.
When at game I was saying to my mate, you watch there will be a couple of posters on here trying to make out the KR defence was something good and that's why we could not score. You went and did it. It wasn't good, our attack was bad. This was shown by how all at sea KR were when we did click some passes together. Clueless attack does not mean good opposition defence.
And G1, we said the same thing about the substitutions, they might as well be done at half time if going to do them that early after.
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