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| Quote ="Rastrick Rhino"Silverwood!!!'"
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| How many times have we had silverwood this season? 5 or 6? Certainly a good few
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| Really looking forward to this one. Fatigue/fitness and discipline may be the deciding factors but it should be a great game and with not so much space at the Jungle I anticipate the forward battle to be crucial.
I expect Bish and Ward may well both play in place of those not recovered from knocks. I also expect Sinfield to start at 6 as his organisation is the key to giving Leeds a good start. As the games settles down Sinfield will then revert to 9 as he did against Wigan and interchange between the two as required. Clarkson therefore may well start at 9 again but if Ward is selected he could fill this role equally well as he is/was a half back.
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| Kicking games will be vital ,Which is why we need Sinfield in the halves as much as possible
Our Backline has made great metres and set a really good platform most sets for us. They also show a great threat from deep which forces teams in to sometimes more defensive kicks. If Cas don’t get a good kicking game going then they will put themselves on the back foot defensively every set. Its difficult to keep a team of Leeds quality out if they are starting their attacking sets 30 metres out from their goal line and getting over the half way on the 2nd and 3rd tackles.
From the otherside there is a bit of an opportunity with our kicking game, Webster and Carney are both big strong fast lads, difficult to stop once they get going. However neither are the quickest off the mark and both have the turning circle of a fully laden oil tanker. I’d like to see us try and ‘Big Les’ Carney with our from deep, get him turned around and chasing backwards and tire him out, and get the chasers up on him quickly so he doesn’t build up a head of steam, up close and mid-range I’d definitely target him with some low kicks through. But we can't telegraph them by having Sinfield switching from Dummy Half on kick plays
Cas score a lot of points, they concede a fair few too, but their game is an attacking one. If we can keep it tight and frustrate them going forward there is definitely opportunities for us to attack and score points and we could get a comfortable victory. If we don’t defend like we have, and Cas can frustrate us for the first half hour or so, get a good kicking game going and they take the chances they get, the crowd will get with them, they will get a bit of a roll on and its difficult to switch momentum against a team as committed as a Cas one when they are playing Leeds.
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| Wet weather to play a part?
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"From the otherside there is a bit of an opportunity with our kicking game, Webster and Carney are both big strong fast lads, difficult to stop once they get going. However neither are the quickest off the mark and both have the turning circle of a fully laden oil tanker. I’d like to see us try and ‘Big Les’ Carney with our from deep, get him turned around and chasing backwards and tire him out, and get the chasers up on him quickly so he doesn’t build up a head of steam, up close and mid-range I’d definitely target him with some low kicks through. But we can't telegraph them by having Sinfield switching from Dummy Half on kick plays '"
The kicks need to be high and at the fullback, with a very good chase. How we have being kicking last two games, and one I thought was wrong for the opposition. This opposition is right for it. They do not have the fullback of Saints and Wigan, and he is susceptible to brain farts with ball in hand.
I would keep it away from Carney as much as possible, and try and keep the ball from getting to him full stop.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"The kicks need to be high and at the fullback, with a very good chase. How we have being kicking last two games, and one I thought was wrong for the opposition. This opposition is right for it. They do not have the fullback of Saints and Wigan, and he is susceptible to brain farts with ball in hand.
I would keep it away from Carney as much as possible, and try and keep the ball from getting to him full stop.'"
Would go with that.
Regarding the Carney tactic it must be remembered that the 'Big Les' plan worked on the much more spacious Old Trafford pitch compared to the smaller Whatever-It's-Called-Now-Jungle-Hose-Coliseum.
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| Leeds were let off in a way last week as Wigan constantly chose to pass the ball laterally rather than doing the hard stuff down the middle. can't see that happening today. So the pack needs to stand up.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"The kicks need to be high and at the fullback, with a very good chase. How we have being kicking last two games, and one I thought was wrong for the opposition. This opposition is right for it. They do not have the fullback of Saints and Wigan, and he is susceptible to brain farts with ball in hand.
I would keep it away from Carney as much as possible, and try and keep the ball from getting to him full stop.'"
i disagree, i think putting it up high risks Cas the opportunity to get it wide early in the count with a bit of space against a disorganised line.
Even if the full back doesnt spread it when catches it, 1st tackle would see it go wide and Cas have been getting joy that way.
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| 1 Zak Hardaker
2 Ben Jones-Bishop
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13 Kevin Sinfield (c)
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| Silverwood screwing over tonight every try going to video ref. but haven't got out f second gear yet very lacklustre.
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| I think actually in terms of overall play we're doing alright but we've come up more individual errors.
Briscoe double error for the first try, Hardaker let himself get taken into touch and messed up a PTB.
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| Kylie bringing the pain again In defence.
Millington leaving the pitch after that hit. Weather they win or lose tonight impressed with cas
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| Quote ="Ferdy"Kylie bringing the pain again In defence.
Millington leaving the pitch after that hit. Weather they win or lose tonight impressed with cas'"
I just think the Sunday / Thursday turnaround caught up with them in the second half. Not the team you want to face with that short a space between games.
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| Quote ="Meefy"I just think the Sunday / Thursday turnaround caught up with them in the second half. Not the team you want to face with that short a space between games.'"
That's a possibility, I would say leeds were a lot more thoughtful and composed than Cas 2nd half. We put in some top quality kicks which hung up in the in goal area and chased Brilliantly.
Cas I think struggled with that at times, it may be a mental thing that Leeds had the confidence to grind it out and only risk it when the opportunity was there. Cas seemed to push at times when it wasn't really on.
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| Daryl Powell gracious in defeat!!! Don't think he has anything to moan about regarding the two non obstructions
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| In tricky conditions a good two points a very good second half performance.
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| Nice one Powell.
Short turnaround
Obstructions
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Short turnaround
Tiredness
Excuse, moan, excuse, moan.
Eveyone knows the short turnaround was a disadvantage, have some class.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"That's a possibility, I would say leeds were a lot more thoughtful and composed than Cas 2nd half. We put in some top quality kicks which hung up in the in goal area and chased Brilliantly.
Cas I think struggled with that at times, it may be a mental thing that Leeds had the confidence to grind it out and only risk it when the opportunity was there. Cas seemed to push at times when it wasn't really on.'"
Sinfield was top notch in the 2nd half with his game management.
His long kick on the 4th shortly after BJB's spill which had us on the back foot was brilliant, turned the screw straight back onto Cas. Also that cheeky non pick-up kick near their line that Tansey knocked on. And just his general steady distribution from dummy half, it's all you need from your dummy half at times, not roaming darting runs.
I know Peacock will get big reps for tonight and rightly so, but special mention too to Leuluai who I thought was great and is having a good year. Added with a good showing from Singleton it shows that whilst Peacock is the star of the show up front he isn't actually doing it on his own.
It's one thing for your wingers to get dragged into touch, but your centre?.......Mr Moon stop running towards the wing. Did Briscoe get a sniff tonight even though we attacked the left side more tonight? Contrast to what BJB got laid on for him.
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It's one thing for your wingers to get drag into touch, but your centre?.......Mr Moon stop running towards the wing. Did Briscoe get a sniff tonight even though we attacked the left side more tonight? Contrast to what BJB got laid on for him.'"
and you forgot to mention Mr Hardaker too.
Thought Briscoe looked a bit off tonight. BJB had a good game despite missing his first attempt at high kick. He finished well and was positionally good. Bailey had a couple of good drives but didn't look fit and looks as though he has borrowed Ryan Hall's loyalty discount card for the pie shop.
But a very good win against a lively and dangerous Cas side. Key factors were their short turn around fatigue and our 2nd half control. Our high kicking game is working because of our excellent kick chases.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Sinfield was top notch in the 2nd half with his game management.
His long kick on the 4th shortly after BJB's spill which had us on the back foot was brilliant, turned the screw straight back onto Cas. Also that cheeky non pick-up kick near their line that Tansey knocked on. And just his general steady distribution from dummy half, it's all you need from your dummy half at times, not roaming darting runs.
I know Peacock will get big reps for tonight and rightly so, but special mention too to Leuluai who I thought was great and is having a good year. Added with a good showing from Singleton it shows that whilst Peacock is the star of the show up front he isn't actually doing it on his own.
It's one thing for your wingers to get dragged into touch, but your centre?.......Mr Moon stop running towards the wing. Did Briscoe get a sniff tonight even though we attacked the left side more tonight? Contrast to what BJB got laid on for him.'"
BJB had laid on for him due to Sutcliffe, who probably had his best game tonight, getting the ball to Watkins more. The left side didn't get the same service. Funny though in first half there were so many around shouting for Moon to stop coming inside, and now I get home and see the message board stop going outside.
You can also tell who didn't go. Our kicks were good second half, but our chase didn't match it, so don't know where someone got it was great from. It was infuriating for all us at match. Just plodding up, yes they were in a line, but very slow. The whole game throughout the match we were slow in all areas. Slow play the balls, yes I know Cas were holding, but we did not make much effort. No dummy half runs. Waiting for balls from kicks. If anything we looked the more tired of the two teams.
Silverwood was so bad in that first half. See if I feel any different after watching recording.
And Carney MOM, WTF, he might run by the can't tackle for toffee.
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| I thought cas had a big spelling he second half where they looked out on their feet, but credit to them they kept coming and hung in there.
just before cas scored their second try,when Sutty got caught in possession on the last, then abbo gave away a silly penalty was so frustrating, that apart I thought abbo was very good tonight.
Not sure what DP has to complain about, as IMO cas got the majority of the calls tonight, but at the end of day we have to be satisfied with the win and the two points
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| A few silly errors in the first half and again we conceded 2 soft tries. However, when 2 soft tries is all we are conceding, we are going to win the vast majority of games....
Nice to get the points on the board and watch everyone else try to keep close to us over the weekend.
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| Cas gave it a good go but ran out if steam and ideas. Credit to our boys though. After two physically and no doubt mentally tough games against Saints and Wigan, tonight was probably as much about getting the win as the performance. And yet we still held them to 2 tries.
Thought Kev was superb in the second half and showed his class. Controlled the game and made sure it was played to his tune. Peacock immense if not only for still making yards at the end.
A really enjoyable game played by 2 good sides and in good spirit - with the strange Silverwood decisions thrown in. If we can win against Wigan at the weekend, it will be a great return from the 4 games.
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