Might depend on how much he plays, so far he's coping very well. Everything still seems to be a knock on effect of BJB being out......

BJB returns....
- Watkins returns to centre
- Ablett returns to loose
- Bailey returns to 1st sub prop
- Kirke returns to 2nd sub prop

Then we have 2 props on the bench McDermott is more comfortable with putting on the pitch.

If I heard him right McDermott said that BJB still has another 6-8 weeks recovery

hes having a storming season. Are him and JP egging each other on? seeing who can be the oldest MoS?!

It's good to see both old timer props playing the best they have ever played (within memory at least). Possibly it's a sad reflection on the general SL standards that both continue to match - or even surpass - the best in the competition, but I too would be happy to see Kylie in Leeds colours next season [uif[/u his present form can be guaranteed. There be the crux.

Are we not at risk of the one-season-too-far-syndrome?

There is always a risk, but I don't think it would be a season too far for kylie

With props and how many players in your squad you can have who could play there (we started the season with 7 not including Achurch or JJB) then its not too much a risk as with a more specialised position like stand off for example. Plus if Kylie really is desperate to stay then we don't have to offer him big money to get him to sign.

Just catching up on this thread and agree with most – if Kylie is on form then why not eek another year out of him? I’ve always been a big fan of Kylie’s and will be sad to see the day he hangs up his boots.

I think Moore is getting a bit of stick TBH. In my eyes he gives a lot of bang for your buck. I’ve never seen anything but 100% from him and does a good job when he does have a stint. I’ve not seen enough of Singleton to say if he’s better than Moore or not but as it is I think he does what we want out of him.

Especially if you add up the minutes he is on the pitch then he only plays the equivalant of about 10 games a season anyway


I too think Moore gets some stick on here as I have not seen him let anyone down when he plays and should/could have been used in games against Cas and London recently along with Singleton.

In an article in one of the match days programmes last year Bailey made a passing comment about playing in the team for another ten years. With JP and Kylie batting on, looks a realistic target.

It's also a massive credit to the way that Richard Hunwicks and the rest of the coaching and conditioning team manage the players workloads that the likes of Leuluai feel that they can still contribute despite their advancing years.

That's why he is getting a new contract, Hunwicks is looking at 2008 data, having lost the up to date.

Have they searched Kylie`s house for that laptop I wonder?

Certainly looked like he is earning another year. I might just be imagine it but his go forward this season with ball in hand looks alot stronger than previous years. He always hurts the opposition in the tackling but his running with ball in hand looks good

Thought he looked immense tonight.

I would go as far to say best game in a Leeds shirt. Thought he as by far the MOM, simply outstanding. That is no disrespect to other players, but Kylie was just superb. His work rate as well which is not something he is normally known for. Hope he does not pick up a ban for that one on Evans.

By contrast, not bothered if Bailey does pick one up for his. How poor he was in comparison.

Clearly, four games out hasn't taught Bailey anything.

Needs to spend a bit more time concentrating on being a professional rugby league player and less time on his clothing range and image.

Have we the oldest front row since the dads army test in the 70s or just since the jeffosaurus

The 'Dad's Army' front row belonged to GB under Peter Fox in the 2nd Test at Odsal in 1978. Jim Mills (34), Tony Fisher (35), Brian Lockwood (32) making a combined age of 101.

Leeds currently have Jamie Peacock (35), Rob Burrow (30), Kylie Leuluai (35) for a combined age of 100. Only Burrow can add a year this season (given a good Play-Off run) but by the start of next season (102) and by April 2014 the same front row selection will total 103.

No idea if there have been any older combinations out there.

Morley Monaghan and carvell can't be far behind the Leeds age?

Don't have their exact ages, but the Grayshon/Ward/Dickinson front row of the mid-80s must have pretty close.

At the moment carvell, Morley and Monaghan are a combined age 99, but on the 13th of may that will raise to 101 combined age.

I should have more to do on a Saturday evening

That combination never actually started a game together at Leeds - indeed all three never appeared in a game-day fifteen together either. They only shared one season at Headingley (1985/6), Dickinson and Ward would never pull on the Leeds shirt again and Grayshon was also gone soon after as he followed Peter Fox out of the exit before Christmas '86.

The Grayshon/Ward Leeds front row was usually completed by a youthful Brendan Hill or Roy Powell or a mid to late twenties Keith Rayne.

The early part of the '86/7 season did throw up another possibility when Grayshon (37) was paired up with Trevor Skerrett (33) but I imagine Bob Morris (age?) may have let their collective credentials down.

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This reminds me that I have a Leeds SL Era game by game age spreadsheet (inspired by what I believed to be an erroneous Leeds CEO claim from around 2006) think I'll give it a dust off, bring it up to date, fill in the missing blanks and see if I can come up with a definitive range on the combined ages of the Leeds starting front rows.

SL Era:

Leeds' youngest starting front row selection - 4th August 1996, Leeds 18 - 56 Bradford

Nick Fozzard 19, Paddy Handley 20, Barrie McDermott 24 - combined age 63.95

Leeds' oldest starting front row selection - 3rd May 2013, Bradford 22 - 42 Leeds

Kylie Leuluai 35, Rob Burrow 30, Jamie Peacock 35 - combined age 101.08

Of course as long as the current front row continue they will inevitably break their own record week after week.

(To this point only one other Leeds starting front row has broken the 101 year mark and they did it only once - in the 2011 Grand Final - Leuluai, Buderus, Peacock were all 33 and change with the collective change edging the total to 101.01)

Well done Kylie on getting another year. He looks after himself. Hell have another season in him.

Morris was 25, if the Sydney Morning Herald is to be trusted, which (David Hard?) it probably isn't.

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