Has everyone forgotten who ellis is managed by????????

We are Warrington Wolves we take what we want.

I would like to see him play for us again, as always I will trust GH to sort the finer details.

Why would Delaney stop him coming back?

Everything barring a superleague title?

Seriously. You can't work that one out? unless you missed the "if"?

To be honest no, we have at least 6 full time 2nd rowers on the books, Delaney has been a very good player for us and his contract was well deserved.

To not retain Delaney just in case a 32 year old Ellis came back to Leeds 12 months later (before he even announced he was coming back to SL) doesn't hold much water for mine.

I am not sure what you are trying to argue, or whether you are trying to be funny or something.

Just to be clear.

Delaney is an overseas player, an overseas player who does a job but is no great shakes. We could easily replace with British and IMO own club. However, that really isn't the point. The point was I hope we don't miss out on getting Ellis returned because of that new contract. That was in relation to a 3 year deal, thinking Ellis might return season after next. The fact that he is now returning ealier highlights it even more.

Ellis is a million times better than Delaney. So the point was I hope by throwing money at Delaney that we do not miss out. Get both great.

Just to make the mathmatics easier for you. If you have £10 and can only spend that amount full stop, and you see two proucts that you want, one at £7 and another at £7. If you already spend on the first product then you can not get that second one can you?

I'm not sure Ellis is a "Million miles" better than Brett.

I am. But at 32 i'm happy to let warrington pay big money, however they choose to pay it

Delaney was given the number 15 shirt for a reason. It's almost inconceivable that he will still be in favour next season regardless of contracts. That said he's one of the first names on the teamsheet for me based on his form since shifting into the second row in 2011.

Leeds don't often go back (although occasionally they do) I'd be hoping they'd make another rare exception if Ellis was affordable and eager to rejoin the club as his first choice but that wouldn't be at Delaney's expence.

wtf are you all on about - the guy is clearly passed it and Wests know it adn must have had a word wiht him.
ok he might get in in front on WH but no one else

lets look to the future more positively, ...move on!

I haven't. So fully expect him to go to the Wolves, tho my preference for the sake of Superleague would be for him to go to Cas or Wakey or even (whisper it quietly) the Bulls.

My preference is that he goes to Wigan, but they don't realise he has a "Harris clause" in his contract...

honestly, grow up and live in the now!

Good, solid, dependable player in his time, but never a great player and certainly not in the world class bracket. Improved somewhat during his stint at West Tigers as coach Tim Sheens had to re-educate him, teach him how to defend and insist he went [url=http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/rl-headlines/ex_rhino_ellis_has_to_go_back_to_basics_1_2205303back to basics[/url.

Like Morley, collected a few rave reviews down under - which panders to Aussie self-belief in their ability to turn an ordinary pom into a good one - but never really cut the mustard in internationals and has been a disappointment at that level. NRL clubs are very astute when it comes to judging when a players best days are behind him and Ellis's time is clearly up there after 3 seasons of hard graft.

Should Leeds sign him? No. They don't need him.

What? A top NRL player isn't good enough for the fifth best Super League side?

It would be nice to have him back but no doubt Leeds will have to pay over the odds to get him.

Contra Gotcha, I think Delaney offers far more bang for the buck in the second-row and has the advantage of being a lot younger.

Good God you're boring.

You said this was the very reason you questioned the new Delaney deal and I'm not sure why that's all.

Kirke got a new deal so why isn't he stopping Ellis from coming back?, I would rather get rid of Kirke or Huaraki way before Delaney to bring Ellis back, Ellis is English so I'm not sure what Delaneys quota spot has to do with that.

And thanks for the maths lesson.

He types garbage, you question it and he fires back with "not sure what you're arguing about".

It's how it works.

Or you could interpret Sheens comments as an embarrassment to him and the NRL. If a Pom from the inferior league who needs teaching the basics goes on to be Wests player of the year what does that say about the Aussie competition?

This I think is on the money. Ellis has been somewhat of a disappointment to me at international level even going back to his Leeds days. Dominating in his domestic league but not in the same sense in the internationals.

They didn't need Buderus either.

Most unfair to say Delaney "does a job but is no great shakes" Delaney is our most effective forward this season. His averages make him highest metre maker and has the best metres per game, he has made the most carries and carries per game and he is our top tackler and shares the highest number of tackles per game with JJB.

Delaney is averaging over 100mtrs per game and is making 16+ carries per game and is putting in 31 tackles per game - OK only 4 games played this season but he shows no sign of playing any other way. I would be suprised if Ellis averaged anything like these stats and even if he had done then it is most unlikley that he will be able to do when aged 32

Yeah, guess we'll have to make do with Ellis since we missed out on Lauaki. Gutted.

RG has this belief our acadamy isn't producing and we only sign 30 somethings whereas the pies are the picture perfect club for homegrown players and never sign any past it players or those over 24 since at the very least when all time began.