16/1 shots come in everyday in gambling..just a reality check there.

Hull FC fans intimated the very same 8 weeks ago.

They aren't good enough and never were.

Neither are Cas.

Hope you enjoy the Semi Final nonetheless and Cas perform well enough to give Leeds a reasonably competitive run out.

Thousands of people come from all over Greece to look at it?

Not in Rugby League however.

They make you outsiders not because they don't think you have a chance, but because none of their punters think you have a chance. That's how bookmaking works isn't it? Balancing odds depending on what direction the money's going?

FWIW I think 16-1 is far too long for just winning two games, particularly given you'll be able to hedge and lay at probably 4-1 for the final if you beat Leeds (which I don't think you will, but in betting terms it's good value).

/betting advice.

Stevo?

Like when salford went to Warrington and won? Give it a rest..

lets get onething straight we dont fear you infact we relish the fact we can bet you,you are clear favourites but we fancy this and wont die wondering in what is our biggest game for years, RIGHT US OFF AT YOUR PERRIL we want this more than any game we have ever played.where coming for you and never forget that.

Hull and Castleford have a lot in common socially, economically, intellectually and demographically.

is that the best come back you can come up with,im telling you we dont fear you we will be up for this WE HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE unlike yourselves who have averything to lose.

I wasn't aware there was a competition going on for the best come back. Not interested anyhow. I just deal with reality.

Leeds are an ordinary team this year. Fortunately for them, Castleford are whipping boy rabble (just like Hull FC). That's why Leeds are off to Wembley again and Castleford are just making up the Semi Final numbers.

You may have noticed the celebratory Leeds dressing room immediately after they were aware of who they'd drawn in the Semi Final? I certainly did. Their collective expressions had 'Wembley' written all over them.

[iWrite[/i ! We won't [iright[/i you off

....oh what's the use.

Ironic that one of the worst performing Leeds teams for years will win this year's CC.
I believe the team will raise their game for the semi (just a little) and do it again (a lot) for the final. Too many of the current squad still have this one piece of silverware missing to let it slip again. Sinfield, Senior (yep he'll be back for this one) and Buderus etc will get their winning medals. McDermott will get the unjustified praise.
There won't be enough however for anything else other than an early play off exit. Warrington will win the GF.

Well done. You've posted odds on who is going to win the CC to try and twist it to suit your argument.

The odds are reflected as such because it is very unlikely that Cas will beat Leeds and then the victors of Wigan v Saints.

Never mind, at least some of your fans have shown themselves to be fairly balanced, reasonable and appreciative of the fact that Cas will be up for it.

I agree, so why are you arguing?



Where have I said that Castleford won't be up for it? Of course they'll be up for it but it's highly unlikely that'll be enough to secure them a trip to Wembley.

I deal with reality and the reality is that Castleford are just making up the Semi Final numbers. When was the last time Castleford won a CC Semi Final during the SL era?

Exactly.

Just think, by the 7th August, Cas could be out of the Cup and out of Super League ....

Good to see selective quoting.

Never mind. I can't be d arguing with someone who talks nonsense.

What selective quoting? I quoted your earlier response in full.



Feel free to return when...

1. You're able to refrain from ascribing the [i'nonsense'[/i you happen to be spouting on to others.

2. You're able to construct a valid argument for Castleford as a genuine contender to win the CC Semi Final by citing some evidence of previous Castleford CC Semi Final wins during the SL era.

3. If you can't manage (2) above, I'll have to assume you're in agreement with me that Castleford are just making up the Semi Final numbers based on past SL evidence, and that they are indeed just whipping boys in waiting.

You will feel an absolute **** if Leeds lose.

Precisely.

Betting odds never represent the actual likelyhood of any event happening, they merely represent a commercial decision by the profitable enterprise of the bookmaker to pitch a sale at a level that will attract the most fools eager to part with their money for no tangible benefit.

Wait until the compiled odds come out for the individual game..i can tell you now there wont be much in it. Leeds are no longer the force they once were..face facts my friend.

Your odds are pitched to attract a level of business, nothing more - its why odds move around depending on the level of exposure to risk or underselling of the event that the profitable bookmaker feels he has - it has little or nothing to do with what may or may not happen during any specified event.

Classic KS

At Outlaws we're running a coach down for the CC final for the first time, which will be a real laugh. I'm thinking though that if Leeds get there it'll ruin the day for me a bit

Don't actually seem to have been away from the place this year!

FA Cup semi final followed by FA Cup win followed by Charity Shield followed by Challenge Cup Final followed by double header on Nov 5th.

Only support I football team and Rhinos and the last year when I watched them both play at Wembley was 1999! not writing Cas off as it will be a hard match.



That Sinny lifts that cup and that at least we turn up if we get there. Last year we didn't even manage to sing "Marching ON ..." and it was a horrible day



One step at a time though and I know everybody will give Cas the respect they deserve.