Child had an average game!

Maybe should have done more at the ruck and on sides off sides aswel.

Well done warrington great win against a great team.

The jjb penalty for dissent second half should also have been a penalty to Leeds for a grapple tackle. They took 2 points and I think made it 20-6 and from then on it was never going to happen for Leeds.

Jjb shouldn't have gobbed off but he shouldn't have been put into a position where his frustration boiled over.

The Lee smith one first half was also a blatant ball steal by hodgson who had his hands all over the ball and virtually pulled smith forward whilst he was stepping back to behind the line.

Other than that not too much to complain about, small things like we should have had a penalty early doors for taking Lee smith out in the air (myler) which went ignored. Whilst it wasn't a tackle by myler he ran into smith who was in the air.

Would it have changed the result? Probably not as Warrington were very good for about 70minutes, last 10 of the first half we were winning the arm wrestle and had territory then the smith penalty and Bailey heading the ball away happened :/

After a performance like that anyone concentrating on the ref's performance needs to get some perspective. He made a couple of decisions I disagreed with, so what? Big deal. He struts around, what does that mean? He is a slight man & needs to show some assertiveness as every ref does. 20 years ago no-one at all would have even discussed the ref following such a rugby lesson.

From my view is the SS, he called held at the same time as the player offloaded. Slight refereeing error but it happens. Correct way to restart is with a scrum to attacking team.

Good call ross,Some of these refs need to take a leaf out of the great bill harrigans book,on all aspects of rules and be more in control of the game!

To be fair to warrington,this sort of luck has been due for 10 years as week in week out we have found ourselves being the ones that have been getting robbed.

Nice to see other teams getting a share of the bad luck just like we have had in the past years.

Correct, although Leeds weren't the attacking team, they were simply the team in possession.

When the ball is offloaded simultaneous to the call of held, the team with territorial advantage should get the head and feed.

We were lucky Child got it wrong and I suspect that Cummings will have a word in his ear.

That was frustrating, it was clear to see that JJB had recieved some "roughing up" in the tackle yet Child wasn't even looking at the tackle or the PTB, he just saw JJB giving the verbals

The problem for Leeds last night was not the ref, but the team itself. The ref didn't drop the ball of gob off did he. McDermott needs to start getting a grip on his team.

But he was a large reason as to why they did

i don't agree. i didn't think he go a lot wrong.
i still think he's out of his depth but was ok last night

Leeds have been a back end of the season team the past couple of years coming to life in the later stages so who knows whats round the corner this year!

On the sherbet so early?

Rubbish - Leeds frustration was their inability to compete with a far superior side - sides on the receiving end give away most penalties - something very evident last night.

Leeds have been the biggest whingers in Superleague for the last three or four seasons, regardless of the referee and particularly when losing. Leeds showed a lot of indiscipline last night, in their ball handling and in their attitude. If they get both those factors sorted then they may have a chance this season.

As well as Leeds being inconsistent around the ruck and giving silly penalties away when it wasn't needed.never really help their matters either!

As much as it pains me to agree with a Saints fan.... I do with last part. The first sentence is just a poor attempt at trolling mate

1. Our team selection was wrong/poor, 2. Our gameplan was wrong/poor, 3. Our 'shape' was wrong/poor, 4. Our gameplay was wrong/poor, 5. Our decision making was wrong/poor, 6. Our discipline was wrong/poor, 7. Our coach was wrong/poor, and 8. Warrington were the opposite!
On top of that we had Child who has been promoted way above his level of competence and who, last night, appeared to let so many 'Warrys' encroach well into the 10 that it was non-existent and who made, as usual, a few blatant errors. The players and the SS get so frustrated by his apparent determination to ignore even-handedness and to influence the game more than the players. The players HAVE to ignore it and play-on, but they don't seem to be able to. The SS, me included, just get angry and disappointed, and we are entitled to! We pay!
If Child spent less time doing his wierd visualising and positioning practice whilst talking to himself before the game and more learning how to be fair, accurate and just he could be a decent Ref. He's not there yet.. .by a long way!

Child was going back 12 or 13 metres last night so of course the Warrington defenders were stood in front of him.

Look at the way Leeds fail to do the most fundamental basics like numbering up correctly in defence, and calling the plays in advance, before you start having a go at the ref. For example how many times did we fail to make a competent last tackle play, or how many times did we fail to pair off correctly at a scrum when they had the feed. Basics that are only one simple aspect of why we are crap. All this without going into collision technique or ball control. TS had to coach the players how to hold the bloody ball when he came, and it looks like we have forgotten everything he ever said in favour of the current pair of muppets...

Not looking good for leeds with them two in control tbh!

How can the referee be an influence on a team dropping the ball? As regards the mouthing off, certain Leeds players have been doing this for some time and it is purely and simply indiscipline. If a decision doesn't go your way just accept it and play on.

While dissent has been a problem for perhaps the past 3 or so seasons, I take it you have not seen many games involving the stains?

TBH thats somethign we're doing really really well this year, i never noticed previously how bad we were at that under cullen i dont know whether its a general coaching thing or hodgson marshalling better from FB but we're spot on with that this year.

Also, as cull has pointed out on boots n all, we've got the technique now on our goal line, or within our 10m' only using one marker, which gives us an extra man in the line, i've not seen any other team doing this but its a big help to our goal line defence.

First of all this is not a ‘we was beat by the ref’ post as we weren’t – we were beaten by an outstanding, well coached, well disciplined Wire outfit, but… Child is a fu*king joke – well out of his depth.

Seriously! If this joker is the standard of professional referees breaking through then God help our sport. He even makes the French idiot look reasonable.

Coming from a fan of a team that contains spit the dummy out Graham it's