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| EDIT: I'm pants at quoting on my iPhone.
Quote ="Keith Swiftcorn"And of course, any performance in a low-intensity, p[ii[/isspoor standard CC fixture against the Mighty Quins simply has to be a pointer to the international class credentials of Ryan Hall.
May I take this opportunity to congratulate Ryan on his international class credentials and place him alongside some other all-time international class credentialled SL greats like erm..... Francis Cummins, Karl Pratt, Ikram Butt, Matt Diskin, Ryan Bailey, Ewan Dowes, Jamie Jones-Buchanan, Nathan McAvoy, Nick Scruton, Lee Smith, Danny Ward, Phil Cantillon, Jamie Mathiou, Ryan Sheridan, Marcus St Hilaire, Danny Williams, Gareth Morton, Wayne McDonald and SINFIELD!!!
Knew that would draw a tasty bite
Joking aside, I'd like to know why you think Hall is a one season 'flash in the pan' international like most of the above named?
That's Ian Sinfield BTW
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"EDIT: I'm pants at quoting on my iPhone.'"
I'll let you off then by selecting your quotes for you.
Quote ="kirkstaller"Knew that would draw a tasty bite'"
I occasionally like to oblige
Quote ="kirkstaller"Joking aside, I'd like to know why you think Hall is a one season 'flash in the pan' international like most of the above named?'"
He'd need to provide some form of flash in the pan moment at international level first before I could even consider such an assertion. Two tries against France doesn't even remotely constitute a semblance of a flash in anyone's pan IMO.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"
8- Peacock is a bit of a worry to me. When Kirke is more effective than you things get a bit concerned. Did we bring him back too early?'"
Your an A$$!
How can you say Peacock is "a worry" back for 3 games and he went straight to top of the meters made chart, some people are far too quick to point the fingure, get a grip. He's still by far the best prop at the club and in the top 3 in SL.
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| Quote ="Charlie Brown"[uYour[/u an A$$!
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| My MOM was Delanney - his tackling was very good on Friday - the whole game was pretty poor stuff - dull would be and understatement.
Hopefully Sinfield isn't going to use the long kick to Hardaker in every game although if we don't improve it may be the only way through against Warrington on Friday.
I hate to see a player get a serious injury but Senior being out for the Warrington and Saints game can only be a positive provided Hauraki isn't brought in to cover Ablett's move to centre.
The two worst performances Smith and Burrow both contributed little - especially going forward.
Also McShane is seeing less game time - why?
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"Any update on Senior? Hope it's not serious.
My brother said to me last night that it would be a terrible shame if that was his last ever game in a Leeds shirt.'"
Would it??
Everyone can see that Senior is making a big mistake trying to extend a superb career. He is/was a SL great, a player who will be remembered for a tremendous contribution to the SL concept/ the greatest leeds team ever IF he retires now. However if he returns and continues to make more ineffective and lacklustre performances like he has so far this season he'll leave on a low.
If I was a vet I'd put him out of his misery.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"
Also McShane is seeing less game time - why?'"
Strange how he only got 20mins, thought it would've been an ideal game for him to start.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"My MOM was Delanney - his tackling was very good on Friday - the whole game was pretty poor stuff - dull would be and understatement.
Hopefully Sinfield isn't going to use the long kick to Hardaker in every game although if we don't improve it may be the only way through against Warrington on Friday.
I hate to see a player get a serious injury but Senior being out for the Warrington and Saints game can only be a positive provided Hauraki isn't brought in to cover Ablett's move to centre.
The two worst performances Smith and Burrow both contributed little - especially going forward.
Also McShane is seeing less game time - why?'"
What a ridiculous and awful thing to say!
I think that if keith is out now for a period of time you so called fans will start to see the hole he will leave when he is not there. Until he is ready to retire he should be a shoe in for that position because he still has plenty to offer, and there ARE NO BETTER alternatives.
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| Quote ="Sam Buca II"Strange how he only got 20mins, thought it would've been an ideal game for him to start.'"
Why?
I reckon the Mcshane thing is getting out of control. Up until coming off the bench and playing well earlier in the season no one was sure about his ability to replace Buderus. Now 4 or 5 decent and i say decent not world beating performaces later and the lad is awesome.
Don't get me wrong he has looked tidy, but is still some way behind Buderus and while DB is still here he should be used to the max and McShane brough on as an impact player which IMO is what he is best at.
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| Quote ="AL Rhino"What a ridiculous and awful thing to say!
I think that if keith is out now for a period of time you so called fans will start to see the hole he will leave when he is not there. Until he is ready to retire he should be a shoe in for that position because he still has plenty to offer, and there ARE NO BETTER alternatives.'"
In defense, there is a better alternative in the form of Ablett. Keith probably edges it going forward.
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| Quote ="AL Rhino"Why?
I reckon the Mcshane thing is getting out of control. Up until coming off the bench and playing well earlier in the season no one was sure about his ability to replace Buderus. Now 4 or 5 decent and i say decent not world beating performaces later and the lad is awesome.
Don't get me wrong he has looked tidy, but is still some way behind Buderus and while DB is still here he should be used to the max and McShane brough on as an impact player which IMO is what he is best at.'"
Agreed, but why wait 60mins to bring him on? Why not give him the last 10 of the first half, when Quins were starting to tire, then give him the last 20 of the second. I think Brian McD should've spelled them better.
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| Quote ="Sam Buca II"In defense, there is a better alternative in the form of Ablett. Keith probably edges it going forward.'"
Agreed
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| My worry is ablett being used in the centre will mean hauraki might get a place against warrington.
Hope not, would rather see pitts included
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| Quote ="Ferdy"My worry is ablett being used in the centre will mean hauraki might get a place against warrington.
Hope not, would rather see pitts included'"
Seconded.
I'd have Clarky at loose with JJB & Pitts in the SR.
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| Quote ="Sam Buca II"Seconded.
I'd have Clarky at loose with JJB & Pitts in the SR.'"
that's a good shout and with Ali on the bench there is just no place that I can see for hauraki.
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| Quote ="Sam Buca II"Agreed, but why wait 60mins to bring him on? Why not give him the last 10 of the first half, when Quins were starting to tire, then give him the last 20 of the second. I think Brian McD should've spelled them better.'"
Well said that man.
Ablett has staked his claim for LF....think it would be wrong to have him drop back to centre. Not a lot of pace in the backs with so many 'forwards' playing there....not a desirable option... ESPECIALLY against Wariington.
How quick is Wilson ?
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| Quote ="nantwichexile"Well said that man.
Ablett has staked his claim for LF....think it would be wrong to have him drop back to centre. Not a lot of pace in the backs with so many 'forwards' playing there....not a desirable option... ESPECIALLY against Wariington.
How quick is Wilson ?
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Not sure how quick he is but for me the Warrington game is not the one to throw him into, unless we have to!
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| Got to agree with earlier posters. Mcshane was looking a bit miffed himself in dug out at all the subs coming and going and not him.
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| Quote ="joshua102"Got to agree with earlier posters. Mcshane was looking a bit miffed himself in dug out at all the subs coming and going and not him.'"
It was the same with the Catalan game, mcshne didn't get
much game time and in second half got all stripped of ready to come on but then got told to get back in dugout. Didn't look impressed
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| Quote ="nantwichexile"
Ablett has staked his claim for LF....think it would be wrong to have him drop back to centre. Not a lot of pace in the backs with so many 'forwards' playing there....not a desirable option... ESPECIALLY against Wariington.
How quick is Wilson ?
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He has staked his claim for Loose, it wouldn't be ideal for him to go to the centres but when times are hard and all that...
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| Quote ="rhinoms"Gotcha ,i didn't think JP was that bad he got through stacks of work and i'll wait for the stats to confirm but must of made the most metres/carries or be near to the top.
I did think Kirke had a decent match but still some sloppy errors for most of the team not just kirke.
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Just to clarify here, so there is no doubt.
The stats will show nothing in relevance to what I said. I actually said when "Kirke is more effective". I don't dispute metres/carries, but I just don't think he should have been doing all that when it wasn't effective, in effect a bit of a waste of effort at times.
To clarify further, I actually didn't say Kirke had a good game either.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Just to clarify here, so there is no doubt.
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Quote The stats will show nothing in relevance to what I said. I actually said when "Kirke is more effective". I don't dispute metres/carries, but I just don't think he should have been doing all that when it wasn't effective, in effect a bit of a waste of effort at times.'" Oh well that is clear.
So, I think what you're saying is Peacock makes more carries and more metres but he should following Kirke's example of making less effort and conserving energy. Have I got that right?
Quote To clarify further,'" Nice one.
Quote I actually didn't say Kirke had a good game either.'" All clear now.
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| Quote ="G1"So, I think what you're saying is Peacock makes more carries and more metres but he should following Kirke's example of making less effort and conserving energy. Have I got that right?'"
No, you got it wrong. No surprises though.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"No, you got it wrong.'" Despite such clarity. Silly me.
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| Quote ="G1"Despite such clarity. Silly me.'"
Accepted. But you only had to ask instead of getting so parronising and self righteous.
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