Hopefully Young Mc will kick on now and maintain his standards and live up to his potential ,a great effort last night.

Yeah i think he lost 1½-2st Off/Pre-Season obviously now he's reaping the rewards, Fair play to him and Fair play to BMD.

McShane was excellent when he came on. Buderus' influence is obviously rubbing off on him

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Burrow was awful, in attack at least. The little guy has so much heart and courage but his inability to boss a game is a worry. I think he is missing McGuire.

Yes fair play to both to be fair. Hope he can mantain his standards. He seems to have a bit of fire in him as well Which is good to see in a hooker

I know you said that quite tongue in cheek, but I really do think that's very accurate.

People underestimate Buderus' role off the field. Even though Buderus is not the player he once was, as a coach/mentor/training partner for McShane he is worth his weight in gold. Especially now Diskin has gone. McShane is getting a one-to-one apprenticeship with one of the greatest hookers of the modern game.

McShane in a couple of seasons time will be as good as Cunningham if not better having a lower centre of gravity and if he keeps the weight off and fitness up he will be a future England/GB hooker.

I am worried by Burrow's form. For me when McGuire is back I would possibly look at McGuire and Sinfield at half with Ablett at loose and Burrow as an attacking option off the bench (until his form improves). He does know the plays though, 'Yankey Doodle, Yankey Doodle'

Agree not gonna hurt learning off buderus

Is that a question posed as a trivia quiz or do you not know the answer (which I very much doubt)

Either way really. If I don't know the answer I usually imagine I can find one pretty quickly. I think I got back to when Diskin and Millard were sharing the hooking role and gave up.

Agree. On all counts.

When Buderus is gone it's nice to think we've got Hood to continue a seemingly successful two hooker rotation policy.

That's a ridiculous statement. The kid has bags of potential but to say in a couple of years he'll be as good as, arguably the best British player of the last 10 years, is a enormous reach!

If he continues to develop, if he continues to improve his defence (which has shown signs of improvement, if he stays fit annd healthy, if he has the right players around him etc, etc.

If he does all these things, he might become a very good SL player, he might even play international RL, he might be the best hooker in SL and could still fall way short of Cunningham

He will be a better international Player than kc got sure. he got injured just hearing the Aussies had landed

Yep, but what I said still stands!

You appear to have a similar man-crush on Cunningham as does G1 on Diskin

I quite like Diskin as well, but not as much as Buderus



I'd suggest the more worrying man crush is the poster who has informed us McShane will be as good as any of the above in the next 2 years

No man crush here.he has the tools to be up there and better than Cunningham in my opinion as does Roby if they continue in the way they are currently.

That is slightly more reasoned.

Roby is almost at that level and along with Graham is pretty much carrying Saints on his back at the moment. I still think it's very early in McShane's career to be saying things like that. Let him develop and see where he is in a year or 2. It's not long ago some Leeds fans were writing him off

2 years is a long time, does he have a long way to go to reach Cunningham standard yes. Is it achieveable? Yes. How will any of us be able to see 2 yrs in the future of a young player?

He has bags of potential and could get there it's not rediculious to think he could get there just someones opinion.

We shouldn't be getting too carried away with him but equally we shouldn't be writing it off completely.

Well said Andy.

Good spell by McShane. Certainly the better of the two hookers we played Thursday (what does that say about Buderus?(, but the jury remains firmly out on McShane. He's been a defensive liability at times this year. One good bench stint against a pish poor Bulls doesn't make him KC and doesn't make Buderus the greatest influence on hookers since Wendell Sailor.

i thought he was great in hi-de-hi

It says nothing really much about the starting hooker but quite a lot about the role of a bench hooker in a two hooker rotation selection.

McShane had another very good spell again today looks like the 2 hooker role is def working now, full credit to him and his mentor

Read it and weep G1

To be honest at the moment McShane is looking the better of the two

The 2 hooker system is working really well. Buderus' defence in the early part of the game is excellent, he really gets stuck in and fills gaps. McShane is providing the more craft of the 2 at the moment, infact he is looking the real deal, which I have always had my doubts he would become if I am honest.

Couldn't agree more.

Why read it and weep? If McShane is capable of this then why waste such cap space and a quota space on someone like Buderus? Diskin could've done the job.

Like I've said for a while, he and Diskin didn't work together because Buderus should've been used from the bench with Diskin starting. However, all this nonsense of Buderus being an 80 min player should have firmly been put to bed now.