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| could be wrong but i'm sure i read somewhere there was a 24 hour recall clause.
could be my memory playing tricks though ...................................
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| Quote ="tad rhino"could be wrong but i'm sure i read somewhere there was a 24 hour recall clause.
could be my memory playing tricks though ...................................'"
I thought the same thing mate.
If it's not the case then we have Donald,Watkins and young Tom Bush who can cover there.
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Quote ="tad rhino"could be wrong but i'm sure i read somewhere there was a 24 hour recall clause.
could be my memory playing tricks though ...................................'"
I thought the same thing too, and for once in my life my memory has been proved correct!
www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/sport/6 ... dcats.html
6th Paragraph Quote "Ben Jones-Bishop will hopefully force his way into the first team at Harlequins and we're looking for Dane Manning to do likewise at Featherstone. But it's nice to know we've got them there and we're able to recall them if we like." '"
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Quote ="tad rhino"could be wrong but i'm sure i read somewhere there was a 24 hour recall clause.
could be my memory playing tricks though ...................................'"
I thought the same thing too, and for once in my life my memory has been proved correct!
www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/sport/6 ... dcats.html
6th Paragraph Quote "Ben Jones-Bishop will hopefully force his way into the first team at Harlequins and we're looking for Dane Manning to do likewise at Featherstone. But it's nice to know we've got them there and we're able to recall them if we like." '"
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| Quote ="Head High Tackle"Jones Bishop is on loan at quins with no recall clause (as was pointed out to me the other day)'"
But not confirmed. Nobody could give a definate on that one.
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| From what I heard last night, don't be surprised to see Watkins at FB on friday.
Bedsy, Ablett and Bailey probably starting - bench of Eastwood, Diskin, Kirke and Ali.
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| Quote ="SouthStanderDave"From what I heard last night, don't be surprised to see Watkins at FB on friday.
Bedsy, Ablett and Bailey probably starting - bench of Eastwood, Diskin, Kirke and Ali.'"
I will be amazed if Bailey starts that match on Friday. In truth I will be shocked if he makes the bench.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"I will be amazed if Bailey starts that match on Friday. In truth I will be shocked if he makes the bench.'"
Why?
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| Quote ="Old Feller"Why?'"
Not played since GF last year. True, neither as Senior, but Senior is important with a lack of competion, where Bailey is not and with competition.
But more importantly, every time he is due to play he goes down with an injury and fails the fitness test, that is why I said I would be amazed.
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| Quote ="BigRob"I'm not worried about the backs,
Full back - covered by Jones Bishop
Wing - covered by Jones Bishop and Watkins
Centre - covered by Watkins, Coady and Ablett
Stand off - covered by Sinfield and Webb
Scrum Half - covered by McGuire and McShane
This is the strongest squad I've seen at Leeds for a long time. Unless we get 3 or 4 injuries in one position (which would be freakish) we'll be fine'"
Ok. Lets just say for example we have 3 injuries at the same time. Burrow, Webb and Hall.
In this situation which backs would you play? And who would we have on the bench.
Don't get me wrong I agree we have a great squad with some top quality forwadrs but I just think with a couple of injuries we may be abit thin on numbers and could do with a couple more utility backs.
IMO I think we are abit short in the backs.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Not played since GF last year. True, neither as Senior, but Senior is important with a lack of competion, where Bailey is not and with competition.
But more importantly, [uevery time he is due to play [/uhe goes down with an injury and fails the fitness test, that is why I said I would be amazed.'"
So no real basis then for your comment?
In your own posting above you wrote that he played in the GF, so he does play in games that he's selected for, 19 in all last season.
I thought you must know something I didn't, which wouldn't surprise me, but in fact it would appear to be merely speculation.
Nothing wrong with that as long as we know that's what it is.
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| Quote ="Rich Rhino"Ok. Lets just say for example we have 3 injuries at the same time. Burrow, Webb and Hall.
In this situation which backs would you play? And who would we have on the bench.
Don't get me wrong I agree we have a great squad with some top quality forwadrs but I just think with a couple of injuries we may be abit thin on numbers and could do with a couple more utility backs.
IMO I think we are abit short in the backs.'"
With Burrow out it's Mcguire at 7 Sinfield at 6 (or mcshane in at 7).
With Webb out Either Watkins plays there or Donald or Bush.
With Hall Missing that gives a chance to either Coady or Bush.
We also have recall option on Bjb.
There's plenty of versatility within the squad to cover these positions barring a complete nightmare injury list.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"With Burrow out it's Mcguire at 7 Sinfield at 6 (or mcshane in at 7).
With Webb out Either Watkins plays there or Donald or Bush.
With Hall Missing that gives a chance to either Coady or Bush.
We also have recall option on Bjb.
There's plenty of versatility within the squad to cover these positions barring a complete nightmare injury list.'"
Or even Chisholm, the fastest man in Superleague.
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| Quote ="Rich Rhino"Ok. Lets just say for example we have 3 injuries at the same time. Burrow, Webb and Hall.
In this situation which backs would you play? And who would we have on the bench.
Don't get me wrong I agree we have a great squad with some top quality forwadrs but I just think with a couple of injuries we may be abit thin on numbers and could do with a couple more utility backs.
IMO I think we are abit short in the backs.'"
bjb back from loan to cover webb, watkins on the wing for hall, for burrow mcguire to scrum half sini to six, ablett to 13 and take your pick from our vast pool of forwards for the one backrow and bench spots
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| Quote ="Old Feller"Or even Chisholm, the fastest man in Superleague.'"
Yep i'd forgotten about young Jamal!
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Quote ="Sibbs Rhinos"I know it's early but this is how it stands ATM.
(Names in Red are players who play more than one position)
Wingers:
Scott Donald
Ryan Hall
=redKallum Watkins
Mike Coady
centres:
Brett Delaney
=redKeith Senior
Kallum Watkins
Mike Coady
=redCarl Ablett
=redGreg Eastwood
Full Backs:
=redBrent Webb
Scott Donald
Mike Coady
Kallum Watkins
Half Backs:
Rob Burrow
Danny McGuire
=redKevin Sinfield
=redPaul McShane
Brent Webb
Props:
Jamie Peacock
Kylie Leuluai
Luke Burgess
Ryan Bailey
Luke Ambler
Kyle Amor
=redJay Pitts
Ian Kirke
=redJamie Jones Buchanan
=redGreg Eastwood
Hookers:
Danny Buderus
Matt Diskin
=redPaul Mcshane
Jamie Jones Buchanan
=redKevin Sinfield
Second Rowers:
Ali Lauitiiti
=redGreg Eastwood
Ian Kirke
=redJamie Jones Buchanan
Carl Ablett
=redKeith Senior
Jay Pitts
Loose Forwards:
=redKevin Sinfield
Carl Ablett
=redAli Lauitiiti
=redJamie Jones Buchanan
=redGreg Eastwood
Jay Pitts'"
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=423300
Possibly add Jamel Chisolm, Tom Bush, Chris Clarkson, Liam Hood to this.
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Quote ="Sibbs Rhinos"I know it's early but this is how it stands ATM.
(Names in Red are players who play more than one position)
Wingers:
Scott Donald
Ryan Hall
=redKallum Watkins
Mike Coady
centres:
Brett Delaney
=redKeith Senior
Kallum Watkins
Mike Coady
=redCarl Ablett
=redGreg Eastwood
Full Backs:
=redBrent Webb
Scott Donald
Mike Coady
Kallum Watkins
Half Backs:
Rob Burrow
Danny McGuire
=redKevin Sinfield
=redPaul McShane
Brent Webb
Props:
Jamie Peacock
Kylie Leuluai
Luke Burgess
Ryan Bailey
Luke Ambler
Kyle Amor
=redJay Pitts
Ian Kirke
=redJamie Jones Buchanan
=redGreg Eastwood
Hookers:
Danny Buderus
Matt Diskin
=redPaul Mcshane
Jamie Jones Buchanan
=redKevin Sinfield
Second Rowers:
Ali Lauitiiti
=redGreg Eastwood
Ian Kirke
=redJamie Jones Buchanan
Carl Ablett
=redKeith Senior
Jay Pitts
Loose Forwards:
=redKevin Sinfield
Carl Ablett
=redAli Lauitiiti
=redJamie Jones Buchanan
=redGreg Eastwood
Jay Pitts'"
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=423300
Possibly add Jamel Chisolm, Tom Bush, Chris Clarkson, Liam Hood to this.
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| Quote ="Frosties."Regarding cover:
Possibly add Jamel Chisolm, Tom Bush, Chris Clarkson, Liam Hood to this.'"
Stop please, you're getting me excited
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Just thought id show that we do have adequate cover in all positions
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| Quote ="Frosties."Just thought id show that we do have adequate cover in all positions
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I like your confidence kiddo but I guess we will have to wait and see. TBH I'm suprised I'm the only one who thinks like this.
I just think compared to our forwards we have a good starting team but no depth. If we get a couple of injuries I think we will lack quality and maybe struggle to score tries.
In our forwards we have plenty of depth, whereas the backs it will just have to be youngsters coming through (which by the way I think is good and we have done it for many a year. But I think with a couple of injuries we may have to rely on them in stead of them breaking into the team)
Just my opinion and I like I said we will just have to wait and see what happens.
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| Quote ="Rich Rhino" TBH I'm suprised I'm the only one who thinks like this.
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I'm not.
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| Quote ="Rich Rhino"Ok. Lets just say for example we have 3 injuries at the same time. Burrow, Webb and Hall.
In this situation which backs would you play? And who would we have on the bench.
Don't get me wrong I agree we have a great squad with some top quality forwadrs but I just think with a couple of injuries we may be abit thin on numbers and could do with a couple more utility backs.
IMO I think we are abit short in the backs.'"
BJB replaces Webb
McGuire replaces Burrow
Sinfield moves to stand-off
Ablett moves to LF
Watkins replaces Hall
It would give us a team of:
1. BJB
2. Donald
3. Delaney
4. Senior
5. Watkins
6. Sinfield
7. Burrow
8. Leuluai
9. Diskin
10. Peacock
11. JJB
12. Ali
13. Ablett
14. Buderus
15. Eastwood
16. Burgess
17. Kirke
And we'd still have available:
Bailey, Pitts, Amor, Ambler, Coady, McShane, Worrall on loan and some more youngsters
We have plenty of depth in both the forwards and backs.
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| Quote ="Rich Rhino"I like your confidence kiddo but I guess we will have to wait and see. TBH I'm suprised I'm the only one who thinks like this.
I just think compared to our forwards we have a good starting team but no depth. If we get a couple of injuries I think we will lack quality and maybe struggle to score tries.
In our forwards we have plenty of depth, whereas the backs it will just have to be youngsters coming through (which by the way I think is good and we have done it for many a year. But I think with a couple of injuries we may have to rely on them in stead of them breaking into the team)
Just my opinion and I like I said we will just have to wait and see what happens.'"
As I said, we would need 3 or 4 injuries in one position to be struggling, thats a freakish amount and can't be planned for, anything less than that and we're fine.
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| Quote ="BigRob"BJB replaces Webb
McGuire replaces Burrow
Sinfield moves to stand-off
Ablett moves to LF
Watkins replaces Hall
It would give us a team of:
1. BJB
2. Donald
3. Delaney
4. Senior
5. Watkins
6. Sinfield
7. Burrow
8. Leuluai
9. Diskin
10. Peacock
11. JJB
12. Ali
13. Ablett
14. Buderus
15. Eastwood
16. Burgess
17. Kirke
And we'd still have available:
Bailey, Pitts, Amor, Ambler, Coady, McShane, Worrall on loan and some more youngsters
We have plenty of depth in both the forwards and backs.'"
O.k so no back on the bench, I know we have a few utility players (ablett, JJB, sinfield etc).
But your missing my point, do you not think with a few injuries in the backs then we might have to rely on a few youngster in stead of them coming through slowly and at there own pace. I understand every youngster that has come through our rank has had their chance along the way. IMO a couple of injuries and we could struggle.
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| Quote ="BigRob"As I said, we would need 3 or 4 injuries in one position to be struggling, thats a freakish amount and can't be planned for, anything less than that and we're fine.'"
I don't think it would be 3 or 4 in 1 position but that’s my opinion I suppose. Lets just wait and see. I just see a lot more strength in our forwards than our backs. Any way lets just hope my example of a few injuries dose not happen at the same time and we keep winning
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| Quote ="Rich Rhino"O.k so no back on the bench, I know we have a few utility players (ablett, JJB, sinfield etc).'"
We rarely have a back on the bench so I don't see your point.
Quote ="Rich Rhino" your missing my point, do you not think with a few injuries in the backs then we might have to rely on a few youngster in stead of them coming through slowly and at there own pace.
I understand every youngster that has come through our rank has had their chance along the way. IMO a couple of injuries and we could struggle.'"
No I don't. Only with a lot of injuries in one position would we struggle, as any team would with a lot of injuries in one position. I don't quite understand how much more cover you want.
We have as cover:
1 specialist full back (BJB)
3 wingers (BJB, Coady & Watkins)
2 specialist centres (Coady and Watkins)
1 stand off (Sinfield)
2 scrum halves (McGuire and McShane)
only BJB and Watkins are under the age of 20.
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| Quote ="BigRob"We rarely have a back on the bench so I don't see your point.
No I don't. Only with a lot of injuries in one position would we struggle, as any team would with a lot of injuries in one position. I don't quite understand how much more cover you want.
We have as cover:
1 specialist full back (BJB)
3 wingers (BJB, Coady & Watkins)
2 specialist centres (Coady and Watkins)
1 stand off (Sinfield)
2 scrum halves (McGuire and McShane)
only BJB and Watkins are under the age of 20.'"
To start with BJB is at Quins so he is obviously not in Blueys plans,
Coady from what i have seen of him he is about year away from breaking into the team and not good enough yet.
I like watkins and think he is our only utility back that we could use.
And I don't think McShane is a scrum half, a good hooker but not a scrum half.
Who does that leave?
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