The money Leeds Met spend on sponsorhip comes from the Carnegie Trust, and has to be used on sports, etc, so is irrelevant when discussing tuition fees

If students didn't, and I mean this quite literally, p[ii[/iss most of the money they borrow down the urinals at Headingley's various drinking establishments, I'd have more sympathy with any complaints about how much money they have to borrow to get them through their course.

he struggles to grasp anything, especially anything of the opposite sex, he once tried to "grasp" a lap dancer, and was ejected from the establishment, he found the whole ordeal arousing, which only raised his liking for men!

If there is a trust fund the money should be spent more wisely than frittering it away on pro sport, grass roots sport is vastly underfunded money spent there would be of greater benefit.Mind you I bet the trustees get some right perks.

Like most advertising its about tying your name to an image you want your product to be associated with. for Carnegie its.

They want to be associated with top level sport, and want to be known in sporting circles. Thats why they invested heavily in Local Rl and Cricket, which gets you a lot more coverage for you money than pumping money into a local football team.

If they wanted to be linked with excelling in sport at the top level, why did they re-brand they Tykes though

the vast majority of loans go directly into paying for rent.

if that is the case how do they manage to go out and get pi$$ed every night? over-drafts? less sympathy!

Britain's binge culture helps, cheap drink everywhere.

as does stereotyping

I am not liking the way people are slagging off the students of leeds met how they waste there money in drink. I am a current student and i dont my money down the toilets. I also do not think poor people go there, i would not call my self poor but to be honest the 2000 pound tuition fees did encourage me to go as i saved 3000 in three years which for is is quite a lot. I feel if they put them up less people will want to go but because of the fees going up they would prob end up about equal.

And for the students who do there money away be grateful of the income for the area.

I think that most students just decide to write off the years at uni, and start life 20k in debt. HArdship loan extensions are not that hard to come by.

But it takes a long time to clear. I only had 9.5k as I was sensible, and its taken me 5 years to clear it, and I have well above the average graduate wage since leaving. An beacuse of the way its paid off the group of people earning less the 20k will never pay it off. IMO the loans thing has not really worked.

the way jordan goes on about it, we have the perfect example on here!

one student of the 200 000 in leeds, a first year student at that.

and maybe you cant sympathise with living within an overdraft, but there isnt much alternative for most students.

I would say the booze in headingley is not tht cheap in most pubs, yes there are offers on somedays but it is not stupidly cheap is it. Some nightclubs on the other hand can get very silly prices but generally in headingley it is about average i feel

i've been and done it, but didn't take out an overdraft!

Breaking my rule about responding on a thread started by someone called Lord Magoon...

If you want to reduce University fees then we have to stop letting thousands of thick people go to University.


Discuss......

congratulations, did you graduate before 2004 by any chance?

in 2005

I can also claim i have gone through leeds met without needing an overdraft. So it can be done

ok, so before the top up fees were implemented, and the culture of debt that now enshrines the majority of students

That culture has been around for a long time though its nothing new, and it is too easy for students to get into debt infact we have a system that actively encourages it.

it is possible to go through Uni without getting into extravagant amount of debt but most students don't/won't make that happen preferring to build problems for themselves when the graduate instead.

i hate to say it, but there are loads of part-time jobs about thats what people who don't want to end up in debt do, thats what i did!

i'm sorry, but i've been there, done it, worked through uni and come out without an over-draft! anyone who comes out with a sob story is either lazy or too interested in gettting pi$$ed to work!

no sympathy!

Spot on, there is no reason people can't study and work, especially as most course you are lucky if you are expected to attend lectures for 10 hours a week.

The problem is too many people see Uni as a chance to party for 3 years rather than taking it seriously and looking to the future benefits it can hold.

The only debt I had when I left uni was from my student loan, I worked every hour possible (and my course wasn't as "easy" in the hours department as a lot) to ensure that I could support myself through the course, yes I missed out on a lot due to it - I hardly went to any matches for the 3 years - but at least other than the student loan I am not left in debt now as a result.

My nephew lived at home and didn't have a car or a booze habit. Three years studying art and 10 quid in debt.

Bingo.

University at one point actually meant something. Now anybody can go to Uni and get a degree by doing little more than getting bladdered every night.

are you assuming that i graduated with an overdraft? i worked some crazy hours in order to be able to avoid the levels of debt some of my friends are in.




most people wouldnt describe there university overdraft as a sob story though. the level of debt that most students take on has been normalised into the university lifestyle.

and well done for getting back to your stereotyping