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| Not too disapointed with the news. We have lots of very good second row, lots of young tallent and not a area we are desperate in. Some good youngsters coming through as well. Some mentioned why sign Delaney but for me he has been great this year and I am more than happy with the extension he got. Ellis would have been a luxury signing.
Should be good for SL Gaz going to hull and not the current big 4. Think hull need more than Ellis but they are going in the right direction. Will be interesting to see what will happen as hull appear to have a few SR AS WELL.
What about swapping g Manu for hauraki? Certaining looks more like Ali than weller does?
Good luck to hull they have got a good player is ellis
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| Quote ="fc baldy"We wasnt the the highest bidder.'"
And you saw each and every contract/terms/dialogue submitted from every club? Say what they want in the media I not believe for one second money wasn't a a big factor in the move to Hull!
Every club in SL apparently spoke to Howes, he does not kid me saying that he genuinely chose Hull over Leeds, Wire and Wigan because he felt he could win trophies at Hull, no disrespect but I find that highly amusing! And for the record If I was Ellis based on trophies alone I would have spoken straight to Warrington and worked under Tony Smith.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"Whilst signing Ellis is good business for Ull i doubt GH and others will be quivering at the thought of motor-mouth Pearson running your lot.
Great signing no doubts at all but you are still "Way Off" top 4/5 and even further from the "Big Gun" AP claims you to be.'"
We are undoubtably a work in progress and we all understand that. However, Salford away apart it has been an encouraging start to the season which has already included points from Saints and Warrington who are established 'big guns'!!!
We have players still settling in, one new signing yet to make his debut and the offensive side of the team just beginning to find it's way (hence the Widnes stuffing). That coupled with the best defence in the league right now, we are a team the big clubs will not take lightly
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| Pah!
He's rubbish anyway.
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| Quote ="RhinoNeil"Disappointed?...yes. Did we [uneed [/uhim?...no. Was he a luxury that may have taken more cap than other successful squad members?...Yes.
To be successful you need a big squad depth with a fine balance of real quality on a budget, if Hull have thrown lots of £££££ towards him then good luck to them but its not the formula to win Super League at present.'"
Correct, the formula you need is a good coach, good crowds and a motivated team littered with Internationals, all of which we have here in Hull.
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| Quote ="deginner"for me this signing for FC reminds me of Craig Fitzgibbon a player who will greatly add to the team, but won't be the one to take them to the next level, to competing for the grand final, Half Backs are what they need, but still very good signing for them'"
I do agree in somewhat your saying (I've only been to two games this season) but from those two games Horne has improve seem to have alil kicking game going, Seymour is making the different.
We're never had a settled 6 7 partnership since cooke and horne in 2006, i do think we need another half back but something good is happening and without writing this season off already i can't wait for next season
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Pearson is still sorting the mess out from GHs bloody missus running the club and how is he a motor-mouth...what he has said and promised,he has deliverd.'"
Sorry have i missed where you've become this "Big Club" ,challenging for all these finals and taken the SL by storm??
Like i replied to other-one great signing but still a long long way off from where AP said you would/should or will be or whatever "promise" he made when he took over and again i doubt very much GH is quivering because Ull have won the race and signed Ellis as good as he is.
I love this hatred for GH's mrs wasn't she involved in the Gateshead merger that saved your lot from extinction and also prominent on the board when you won the CC in 05 and made the GF?
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| Quote ="unknownlegend"Quote ="RhinoNeil"Disappointed?...yes. Did we [uneed [/uhim?...no. Was he a luxury that may have taken more cap than other successful squad members?...Yes.
To be successful you need a big squad depth with a fine balance of real quality on a budget, if Hull have thrown lots of £££££ towards him then good luck to them but its not the formula to win Super League at present.'"
Correct, the formula you need is a good coach, good crowds and a motivated team littered with Internationals, all of which we have here in Hull.'"
Just what Leeds have been missing - advice from Hull on how to put to together a successful winning team...you do know what that row of stars in the page header are for don't you
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| Seems Ellis has signed knowing he will be laid up for a stretch at some point.
That's what the glamour signings, who are in their 30's, usually do at Hull.
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| Just because Hull have come out and said he's on a reasonable wage and he had more lucrative offers doesn't make it true. They are hardly likely to come out and say "we offered him way more than anyone else and he's taken a big chunk out of are salary cap".......time will tell who else they sign just how much salary cap space they have left.
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| Good luck to Gareth.
I would have thought he would have liked another game in the World Club Challenge though.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Just because Hull have come out and said he's on a reasonable wage and he had more lucrative offers doesn't make it true. They are hardly likely to come out and say "we offered him way more than anyone else and he's taken a big chunk out of are salary cap".......time will tell who else they sign just how much salary cap space they have left.'" You're jealous.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Go on the leeds board...what a bunch of arrogant w&nkers they are.'"
Looks like someone isn't happy that not all Leeds fans think Ellis will make them world beaters.
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| Quote ="McLaren_Field"Pah!
He's rubbish anyway.'"
Yesterday's man. They're welcome to him ....
Bring on Bradley and Stevie ...and all the other ' kids '
Bailey will take care of Ellie
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| Nope not jealous but if Tony Smith came out and said his Wire team are under the salary cap would you believe what came out of his mouth also?
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| meh, cant say I'm suicidal that he's chosen not to return to the World Champions. To achieve the sort of salary Ellis was after would have seriously compromised the growth of the squad over the next couple of years. We seem to have done ok since he went and I'm sure well do ok now he's not coming back.
I suspect he was offered bigger money by Wire or Wigan but his plans were based on a return to wetherby so Hull was the next highest offer. This shows good intent from pearson but a second rower (however good) doesn't turn you from also rans into realistic title challengers. They desperately need a pair of quality half backs if they are to progress and a big chunk of salary cap on Ellis isn't going to make that any easier.
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| Quote ="rhino phil"meh, cant say I'm suicidal that he's chosen not to return to the World Champions. To achieve the sort of salary Ellis was after would have seriously compromised the growth of the squad over the next couple of years. We seem to have done ok since he went and I'm sure well do ok now he's not coming back.
I suspect he was offered bigger money by Wire or Wigan but his plans were based on a return to wetherby so Hull was the next highest offer. This shows good intent from pearson but a second rower (however good) doesn't turn you from also rans into realistic title challengers. They desperately need a pair of quality half backs if they are to progress and a big chunk of salary cap on Ellis isn't going to make that any easier.'"
I think symour is a decent scrum half, if I was a hull fan I would be wanting a decent centre and replace Horne at stand off
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| Terrible News that the Codheads have signed Ellis
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| Ellis is not the player to turn a Hull from wanna be's to contenders
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| Quote ="Ferdy"I think symour is a decent scrum half, if I was a hull fan I would be wanting a decent centre and replace Horne at stand off'"
That's the general consensus with Hull fans, although Horne hasn't had a bad start to the season and has probably been better than Seymour.
Martin will go at the end of the year, so I'd guess a right side centre is now top priority.
Moa is definately going, so Tickle may step up to prop.
Rumours on O'Meley & Briscoe leaving too, both will need replacing.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"Sorry have i missed where you've become this "Big Club" ,challenging for all these finals and taken the SL by storm??
Like i replied to other-one great signing but still a long long way off from where AP said you would/should or will be or whatever "promise" he made when he took over and again i doubt very much GH is quivering because Ull have won the race and signed Ellis as good as he is.
I love this hatred for GH's mrs wasn't she involved in the Gateshead merger that saved your lot from extinction and also prominent on the board when you won the CC in 05 and made the GF?'"
Errrr...we know we are a long way off being top 4 material but are a "Big club" in other areas of the franchise applications.As for KH,they was in charge in 2005 and 2006 but they didnt take the club forward then,we had bad signing after bad signing,mediocre coaches,she was also in charge when Cooke legged it,Thackeygate,a £2,000,000 tax bill for EMT payments (something you have got hanging over you) and the Gleeson drug scandal.We are seeing a improved performance on the pitch under Gentle now and anything is a bonus than 4 mediocre years under Agar.As for Finals and taking S/L by storm...i didnt say that we would be,i hope we will be at some point and the signing of Ellis is a step in the right direction.
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| I'm disappointed and he wont look right in that awful black and white strip,and he won two SL rings with us it doesn't take away from his legacy.Good luck Gaz
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| Mmm.. must admit i'm very disapointed we've not re signed him.... i had a feeling we'd miss out as i previously posted our record on re signing ex players isn't good.
Well done FC for securing him, they've done very well there. We have either been toally out bid or we didn't feel he was worth the money and i wonder if we have decided we would sooner spend it on securing the likes of Watkins etc
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| Quote ="Frosties."Done deal, Leeds bound.'"
Obviously not as in the know as you like to make out!
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