You’ll need to know a secret handshake to get into next home game …

It`s come to something when we are hoping we can get a few wins against bottom 6 teams and not get relegated.
Whilst we have squad fillers who wouldn`t normally get in the 17 if all our players were fit.
We have enough class out there to be top 6.
The fact we are struggling has got to be down to the coaching.
We live in the past and give jobs to the boys and the boys pick their mates Briscoe and Sutcliffe spring to mind where JJB is concerned.
A new coach needs to get rid of the likes of JJB, Walker, Long and insist Agar does not get the DOR role.
They then need to get rid of the players who offer nothing and rebuild for the 7th year in a row.
Only then can we move forward and forget the golden generation.
It happened we enjoyed it but it was a long time ago.
Lets try and look forward and hope the 7th year of asking delivers the goods.

If you believe the rumours, JJB seriously undermined Furner when he was at the club. Furner got sacked because JJB is Kev's best mate of course. If and when the new coach is installed then JJB should be the first one out of the club, followed closely by Long, oh and that guy who seems to have a job for life at Leeds, Davidson.

I’m sick and tired of the phrase “Rhinos DNA” and the constant harking back 5 years to 2017 for the hurrah of it and 7 years since the end of the ACTUAL “Rhinos DNA” is laughable.

These players need to create their own legacy and battle stories, shoving the exploits of players from 7+ years ago down their throats isn’t helping anyone or anything, leave that period where it belongs, in the past and unsullied.

In Know what your saying, but when you’ve been as successful as that there is definite things that can and should be passed on…..
The current lot need all the inspiration they can get!

The things that should have been passed on left the building in 2017 when the last of the golden generation retired. All the current bunch can pass on is mediocrity. I don't think constantly referring to the golden generation will inspire the current crop. Just adds pressure to a group that need to remember why they started playing the game in the first place

I’m really not sure the whole living on past glories thing is true. I’m more practical and think we have a lack of quality and depth, horrendous injury runs year after year , awful luck re-our best player and leader (Ward) and the most promising young player we had (Walker)

exactly no dna it's a simple game where for a period a lot came together - players that could support a move and score, mags , burrow , webb , hardaker, wingers that can run hall , bai, calders , bishop, donald , centres that could break the line senior, watkins , sinfield's game management , peacock and kylie, couple of good hookers diskin buderus, quality 2nd row ellis , ali , ablett , throw in moon , cuthbo , delaney ,garbutt, parcell , young bailey , ward, smith

now we have a crocked walker, myler in an indian summer who may never have played fb, tindall with promise , brisoe should have left 5 yr ago , handley can run but needs a clear field , no centre other than newman who may keep breaking down , 4 overseas players yet to add anything an prior may be a season too far , big mick good but not as big as other teams big men , hookers average , no 2nd riow that can break line and bang average lf's an subs
the eye went off the ball signing wise from when we added the right quality player ellis , jp , buderus
walmsley was a big miss
some nowlike leeming an mellor looking good at huds are like the 80s getting players that looked good at wakefield but were a down grade for us

finding wheat will be like finding a needle in a haystack

exactly re donno and thompson did a job for half a season but no way should have got extensions and part of the dor failings
sutcliffe hasn't been a decent half since he did his knee as when he can't run he certainly can't pass , the best quotes of players that played with holmes are how he could find them with any pass if they ran right-- who could sutcliffe find

No problem with Donaldson's commitment to the team. He's not even a first choice player and has plenty in front of him. He's probably getting picked because he's the JJB of our current squad!

Thompson on the other hand is more concerning given he's taking a valuable quota space. Unlike Donaldson, I can't think of a game in which Thompson's efforts have resoundingly justified his inclusion in the first 17.

JJB was raving about Thompson in the latest presser!

Precisely. He’s either telling his true opinion in which case he’s nuts, or he’s fibbing and looks daft in front of everyone.

I think eccentric is a better description.
either way he should be nowhere near the coaching staff

Yep. To get this bad from where we were would seem to be more difficult and take more effort than staying at, or near the top. It's like we put a failure plan in place and executed it perfectly.

For the first time in his stewardship of the club i really feel Hetherington is under huge pressure now, he has to get this next appointment and subsequent recuritment right... it's not good enough.

I totally agree. GH, as we all know, has been great for Leeds but hes now under huge pressure to show he can still get things right.

Interesting that Sironen hasn't copped any sort of ban for his attack on Walker's head. I thought he was lucky to not at least see yellow at the time, to not get a ban at all for it means one of two things: either Saints are allowed to do stuff we're not, or they were full of it at the start of the season and they don't really care about player welfare and direct contact to the head. Personally think it's a bit of both, but I thought that was a particularly bad one and when you look at some of the nothing challenges we've had players banned for it sticks in the craw a bit.

100% agree no consistency at all

Attack on Walker's head? I don't remember it being particularly bad, was it the one when he hit him in the back of the head as he was being taken to ground? I was worried he might get a 1 game ban and miss our cup game with Catalans, but thankfully he got a grade A, for which the sanction is 0-1 games. Obviously it's been judged to have been on the lower end of that scale.

It does seem a typical RFL clampdown on the crackdown has happened again. There were three tackles in the game, two from Saints and one from Leeds, that would have probably been yellow at least in the opening weeks of the season.

We should definitely appeal Sutcliffe not getting banned!

What are the consequences for GH if he gets it wrong? I know we can vote with our feet but can anyone realistically force him out? Caddick/Oates? Or is he around until he decides otherwise?

He will get it right. The alternative is retiring and being at home with Kath all day. He wont want that.

Let's face it. Would you?