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| Quote ="Trebor1"Tremendous effort. We are really cursed with injuries though. It’s every year'"
I've said it before, but along with the refereeing of the ruck, finding a way to reduce the number of injuries is probably the most cost effective thing the games administrators can do to improve the quality of the product. It's not just us, every team always seems to have at least 4 or 5 first team players missing each week. We don't have a massive talent pool in this country, so getting as many of the best players playing as often as possible is massively important.
Obviously, a lot of injuries are bad luck and will always happen, but reducing the amount of wrestling at the ruck is imperative IMO. Even the ball carriers are wrestling at the ruck to try and win a penalty, some play the balls are reminiscent of 2 boxers fighting in a clinch.
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| Was at the match yesterday and at the wrong end to see the Sangare "try" but what I could see looked fine. For all those with Skywhat was the video's ref reasoning for disallowing the try? I could only thing of a forward pass but didn't think the video ref was alloed to judge a forward pass and the onfield ref gave a try.
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| Quote ="brantonrhino"Was at the match yesterday and at the wrong end to see the Sangare "try" but what I could see looked fine. For all those with Skywhat was the video's ref reasoning for disallowing the try? I could only thing of a forward pass but didn't think the video ref was alloed to judge a forward pass and the onfield ref gave a try.
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Said a saints player touched it so knock on. What was annoying is he took one quick look at it and that was it, it was given a try on field.
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| Quote ="christopher"Said a saints player touched it so knock on. What was annoying is he took one quick look at it and that was it, it was given a try on field.'"
It was right in front of me. I have to say that something initially seemed wrong about it when viewed with the naked eye. However, the referee gave the try. Seems harsh to overturn on footage that can't have been definitive - although I haven't summoned the courage to watch it back yet. To win the game last night we needed a bit of luck. Sadly, we didn't get it.
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| Quote ="ArthurClues"It was right in front of me. I have to say that something initially seemed wrong about it when viewed with the naked eye. However, the referee gave the try. Seems harsh to overturn on footage that can't have been definitive - although I haven't summoned the courage to watch it back yet. To win the game last night we needed a bit of luck. Sadly, we didn't get it.'"
We had loads of luck, all bad!
Watch it back it was a really entertaining game despite the result.
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| Haven't watched it back yet but came away from the game with a sore throat from all the chanting and rorting.
Yes, lots of mistakes but thoroughly entertaining game.
Dissapointed to not come away with a point (separate conversation) but I'd take that every week for that entertainment. Play like that and we will be there or there abouts at the end of the year
Will comment again after watching replays and getting better views of the controversial moments without emotions overflowing
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| Quote ="Jack Burton"I've said it before, but along with the refereeing of the ruck, finding a way to reduce the number of injuries is probably the most cost effective thing the games administrators can do to improve the quality of the product. It's not just us, every team always seems to have at least 4 or 5 first team players missing each week. We don't have a massive talent pool in this country, so getting as many of the best players playing as often as possible is massively important.
Obviously, a lot of injuries are bad luck and will always happen, but reducing the amount of wrestling at the ruck is imperative IMO. Even the ball carriers are wrestling at the ruck to try and win a penalty, some play the balls are reminiscent of 2 boxers fighting in a clinch.'"
How do you legislate for that though? Limit the number of tacklers to 2? Some players in the heat of battle are absolutely trying to injure the opposition you can see the intent - albeit a minority.
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| We were the the better side from the off and without so many injuries and disruption to playing positions, looked like we were on for a good win. RS was humble and dignified in his press conference, however I'd say it's a travesty saints got the points.
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| Quote ="Seth"Does that also mean youre not allowed to have an opinion about someone's opinion? Sounds like those that cry snowflake when people disagree with them.'"
This kind of proves what I was saying its ok for you to call names Snowflake, pratt etc typical playground bully stuff, anyone who has a different take on things.
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| Quote ="Seth"We were the the better side from the off and without so many injuries and disruption to playing positions, looked like we were on for a good win. RS was humble and dignified in his press conference, however I'd say it's a travesty saints got the points.'"
Correct, looking at one of the trys awarded in the HKR Wigan game and using that judgement as a bench mark ,I thought we didn’t get a decent call on our disallowed trys. Have followed Leeds for years well before super league was formed, in all that time I can’t recall an injury crisis similar to this one. Frustrating thing is the injuries are all to key players. On the plus side every Leeds player gave everything for the cause, so no complaints on that score. Game management below par, but entirely forgivable due to the nature of the game.
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| Quote ="RAPIDO"This kind of proves what I was saying its ok for you to call names Snowflake, pratt etc typical playground bully stuff, anyone who has a different take on things.'"
Errm no it doesn't. I had an opinion about an opinion that's allowed. And who have I called snowflake.
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| Great game last night. Incredible effort but incredibly dumb play at the end. Not even setting up for a drop goal, an impossible offload on first tackle. We play smarter in the extra time and we win it. Not come away from a loss as pleased for a long time. Not sure why people seem to hate golden point extra time but it provides great drama
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| Quote ="KaeruJim"How do you legislate for that though? Limit the number of tacklers to 2? Some players in the heat of battle are absolutely trying to injure the opposition you can see the intent - albeit a minority.'"
The refs need to clear the ruck/ ptb faster. All the laying on,wrestling and etc makes the player fight to get up.
It also makes the game slower,duller and yawning like
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| Quote ="Barrie’s Glass Eye"I think that really could be a galvaniser.
If we have even one ‘proper’ halfback on the pitch we knick that. Given the patched together nature of the side by the end I think I’d reserve critics of them not managing to get a drop goal over.
The only real negative for me was the obvious injuries. Also not one to blame the referee but I thought the Sangare try was inconclusive and should have gone with the refs call. Also didn’t see a punch thrown either but they only showed one replay.
Holroyd best prop on the field. Hard to bag anyone but we probably saw the best and worst of a couple of players. Myler does so much well but just doesn’t have that cutting edge organization. Walters was good but still very raw, a couple of overexcited offloads and a poor read on the sironen try. Sangare an awesome break and then a chase back but then a bad error.
Overall more positive and hopefully last two weeks show we’ve put the poor starts to bed.'"
Looked like McDonald headbutted Lomax to me
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| Quote ="thesaint71"Looked like McDonald headbutted Lomax to me'"
That's weird since the cameras, ref and linesmen didn't see that, and even Lomax didn't mention it
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| Quote ="Emagdnim13"The refs need to clear the ruck/ ptb faster. All the laying on,wrestling and etc makes the player fight to get up.
It also makes the game slower,duller and yawning like'"
It may be an oversimplification, but yes, just using the 6 again for what it was brought in for would be a start
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| Quote ="thesaint71"Looked like McDonald headbutted Lomax to me'"
It was friendly fire one of the saints player's caught him with a pearler right on the button. ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| If Mcdonnel gets a ban id appeal for it. He didn’t throw a punch
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| Quote ="thesaint71"Looked like McDonald headbutted Lomax to me'"
I saw Lomax indulge in a bit of petulant sledging (every side does it) on Walters. McDonnell lost his temper, ran in and ending up pressing his forehead against Lomax's. So technically a headbutt I guess. Not sure if that was what he was sent off for though. At the time I thought penalty Saints and a sin binning for McDonnell, maybe both. In truth I don’t think it impacted the result.
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| Quote ="ArthurClues"I saw Lomax indulge in a bit of petulant sledging (every side does it) on Walters. McDonnell lost his temper, ran in and ending up pressing his forehead against Lomax's. So technically a headbutt I guess. Not sure if that was what he was sent off for though. At the time I thought penalty Saints and a sin binning for McDonnell, maybe both. In truth I don’t think it impacted the result.'"
Sent off for throwing a punch spotted apparently by the TJ.
I couldn`t see it nor could the cameras but seems the TJ did.
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| That was such a satisfying win for St Helens.
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| Quote ="TheWarringtonWolve69"That was such a satisfying win for St Helens.'"
What? Beating a team who had 14 players for the majority of the match, losing their 2 starting halfbacks and their star centre?
The Saints fans I spoke to after the game didn’t seem very satisfied.
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| It was a great effort by your lads on Friday. When all your guys started going down I was pretty confident we’d ease into a win by 2-3 scores but the effort and commitment of your players was unreal. I’d be made up with it if I was a Leeds fan. On balance, I thought you deserved the game more than we did but that’s sport. I felt the opposite when we played you in March so it’s swings and roundabouts. Gonna be a tough road for you now with all the injuries but I hope you make the play offs, always good for an upset and keeping the teams you play honest.
On another note it’s a shame you couldn’t keep hold of Walters. He’s not perfect yet by any means but he really does have the potential to be a top, top player. Gonna be horrible seeing him play for Wigan
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| Quote ="The Reaper"It was a great effort by your lads on Friday. When all your guys started going down I was pretty confident we’d ease into a win by 2-3 scores but the effort and commitment of your players was unreal. I’d be made up with it if I was a Leeds fan. On balance, I thought you deserved the game more than we did but that’s sport. I felt the opposite when we played you in March so it’s swings and roundabouts. Gonna be a tough road for you now with all the injuries but I hope you make the play offs, always good for an upset and keeping the teams you play honest.
On another note it’s a shame you couldn’t keep hold of Walters. He’s not perfect yet by any means but he really does have the potential to be a top, top player. Gonna be horrible seeing him play for Wigan'" Cheers for those comments.
I agree both games could have gone either way.
There`s certainly a resilience in the team.
We got some bad luck with the injuries and whilst both VR decisions were marginally correct I`ve seen them go the other way even with the involvement of VR.
Like to think we will see you in the GF ![PRAY icon_razz.gifRAY:](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//eusa_pray.gif)
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| Quote ="The Reaper"It was a great effort by your lads on Friday. When all your guys started going down I was pretty confident we’d ease into a win by 2-3 scores but the effort and commitment of your players was unreal. I’d be made up with it if I was a Leeds fan. On balance, I thought you deserved the game more than we did but that’s sport. I felt the opposite when we played you in March so it’s swings and roundabouts. Gonna be a tough road for you now with all the injuries but I hope you make the play offs, always good for an upset and keeping the teams you play honest.
On another note it’s a shame you couldn’t keep hold of Walters. He’s not perfect yet by any means but he really does have the potential to be a top, top player. Gonna be horrible seeing him play for Wigan'"
Well said mate and thanks. Nice to see a sensible discussion from rival fans
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