My sentiments exactly.....

I believe if Hardaker goes we will then see a growing torrent of departure ( can you imagine the team without Watkins, Hall, Sutcliffe and Ward etc ) ugh !

It`s a bit of a trek for me to travel over to Salford to watch them though

Aren't problems like this what we have Hunslet for nowadays?

Any threat of being shipped off to there would definitely get me on the straight and narrow.

I see Nantwich is bored again! Still poor efforts, mind!

Why should he - if Leeds sacked there would be a feeding frenzy for his signature. He would at a new club on much more money in time for pre-season. As I said before GH has no qualms about tearing up a contract when it doesn't suit him - ask Ryan Sheridan or Andy Hay. So morals have no part to play here - contracts are not worth the paper there written on in reality. GH was quite happy to sell Iestyn even though he had signed a new contract the year before - if a player wants to leave it is very difficult to stop them.

Scary.....you know me better than your wife

What option does Hardaker have? Leeds hold the cards. He's contracted.

Ask Iestyn he too was contracted didn't stop him exiting when Wales came calling.

Can see GH paying a player a reasonable wedge and not playing - if Zac wants out he will leave and there is not a lot GH can do. The same happens in reverse in GH wants a player out so he can't have it both ways

Iestyn exited not because he wanted to but because he was allowed to, with compensation and several clauses.

Leeds decided in that case they were better off with the money than with an unhappy player, especially given the player would not be strengthening an opponent. They didn't *have* to do that, and they wouldn't have to do it with Hardaker. It's absolutely untrue to say there isn't a lot that can be done *if* ZH wants to leave.

If Iestyn hadn't have wanted to leave there would have been no need to allow him now would there?

Leeds could not have kept Harris GH had to release him they did the best deal they could in the circumstances. If Zac really wants to leave GH will do the best deal he can rather than have an unhappy potentially disruptive influence in the squad. The player holds all the cards - if Leeds had sacked him he would be free to move on - restraint of trade etc.

If GH wanted to dig his heels in - although like you, I doubt he would - Zak would still be registered as a Leeds player under RFL rules.

Harris's registration meant zilch under the circumstance of his switching codes. The club was in a far, far weaker position over that one.

Pratt was lucky to get as many chances as he did at Leeds.

His off-field behaviour made Jordan Tansey look like Kevin Sinfield in the professionalism stakes.

Yet they managed to get Harris to sign a significant contract extension the year before he went to Union, and thus demanded a substantial fee for the move. Not to mention the contract that allowed Leeds to take legal proceedings and win after his return in Bradford shirt.
Pretty f*****g good deal if you ask me.

The money that the Rhinos received from both Iestyn's sale to the WRU and also the compensation deal that the Bulls had to subsequently pay back to us surely makes this the most expensive single transfer contract in English RL history

Gawwy by plenty

Regarding Zak

I work with a guy that coaches at Fev Lions and knows Zak very well

Neither he nor I fully know what will happen regarding his recent indiscretions and not only in the England camp but also during the past 12 months at the Rhinos, but he did say that 3 SL clubs were willing to buy out his Rhinos contract

I was told at the start of the 2013 season that he was warned about his off field antics and how he could regularly be seen at the Xscape and with a bottle of the cold stuff in his hands throughout the week too

Zak is a tremendous young player without a doubt and one who could eventually become a great of our game if he fulfills his potential, Sadly he will have to make some huge sacrifices to his lifestyle if he wishes to stay at the Rhinos if what i have heard is correct

There's no smoke without fire and there's definately some truth in all these rumors regardless of what Leeds or England say publicly

I'm still not sure if Zak will be with us come the 2014 season with these offers on the table

So basically, what he wants is a club where he'll be allowed to go out on the lash during the week without anyone trying to stop him?

If that is the case, he's a bloody idiot. No such club exists.

Absolutely. I also like to think when Iestyn signed the extension he knew his club would benefit when he moved. He could have waited a year and gone for nothing otherwise. Credit to him as well in my book, despite what happened after when he went to Bradford.

I say again, there is a club, Leeds. Just depends who you are it seems. Bailey and Delaney are very often on the lash.

Agree with all that. But my point was that the club would have failed in any attempt to retain him, had it been minded to do so.

hull EC@

It's not a difficult point David. Leeds hold the cards. They can stop him going anywhere during the remainder of his contract. I'm not saying they will, but they can.

If he goes it will be on Leeds terms. Just like Iestyn Harris.

So you keep saying.

Have Leeds ever fined both publicly for this alleged behaviour?

Has Bailey ever been booted from the rep squads he's made for this alleged behaviour?

He's currently being extremely random on Twitter again. I hope he's not back on it.

Is he? Seems like he's having a night in on the xbox with a dominos.

Exactly. It's if your face fits. And I say that on the basis of you can't/shouldn't pull one individual if ignoring the same with a couple of others. Just because not fined publicly doesn't mean it hasn't happened many times. There was a case in point not just three weeks ago at the station pub with Bailey and Gareth Rayner, which the Landlord reported to the club.

As for rep squads, was that bit just a laugh? You said Bailey and Rep squad in same sentence.