you mean the difference between the two cities ?

At least we will not cheat our way to success,spend money we don,t have and finish up with no money and a s..thole of a ground,thats what real losers do!

Cuthbertson running the ball in from the restart, when did he start
jogging it in, putting a hop in, putting the handbrake on and falling into the tackle? He did it all day yesterday.

When was the use of the body and shoulder in the tackle banned at Headingley? All I saw yesterday were T-Rex tackles, arms waving about in the air like stranded beetles.

I'm not getting into the zombie nation communication or the glacial speed of thought in the halves but one thing stood out for me. All these stars thought they were turning up to be a star part of a well oiled machine, they seem to be bit part players used to being told what to do, unable to make it happen. They seem lost.

Why is it arrogant? We've only ever lost 3(?) games to lower league clubs in our history. One was Toronto at the end of last year. This was worse as there was more on the line. How many games did Bradford lose in the same way when they were in the higher league? If you did, was the reaction all about how well the lower club played or was it absolute anger about your own team?

I never thought we'd win the cup BTW. But as a one-off game there was something on the line.

I wasn’t expecting that.
I thought the Toronto trip might have taken some energy from us, and I thought you had enough quality across the board, to see you home. But I know Kear understands “the magic of the cup” and I was fairly confident he had the edge on Agar. Also he’s been building some mental resilience in the Bulls this season.
But where were your leaders on the pitch? Watkins as captain, but he’s not a leader.
Every squad tends to have a leadership “group”.
I’m fairly sure ours would include Crossley(c), Mini(vc), Webster and Hallas. And they tend to self police the squad to keep standards high. Was Hallas not captain of his year group coming through your academy usually? I think?
Do you know who your group would be? JJB, Albert,Chev, Burrow (even though some are now coaching) can’t believe what they’re seeing.
*Ablett

Hardly ripped us apart did he, didn't really do anything more ch, had a good game, but the whole Bradford side played out off their skins, and Leeds were just the worst they ever good be, lilley got the MOM because that's the fairytale story. Reality is he had a good game but did not rip anyone apart. The reason he has not been kept at Leeds is because he is crap, and if he was ripping sides apart every week he would still be at Leeds reality is he is a poor player and even Bradford have not offered him a contract yet because he is not doing that every week for them either.

Do keep up. Bradford offered him a contract the day after you told him he wasn't going to be retained. Lilleys is playing very well for us and developing a good partnership with Milnes. Same cant be siad of any of halve permutations.

Lilley's probably too slow to be a top halfback, but I like his attitude and desire to control things.

Him and his 19 year old, part time half back partner did indeed take them apart.

Lilley crap ? I'd take him on one arm & one leg over your 1,6,7 yesterday.

Bulls reward fax at home

Actually I'd say the big crowd showed exactly why it is a big mistake to treat all clubs as equal. Bulls leaving was a big loss for SL.

It may take a season or two to sort the team out, it'll take a good bit longer to sort out the overbearing arrogance of some of your fans.

I am old enough to remember a team at the start of the 60s whos fans were also afflicted with overbearing arrogance

I thought we certainly raised our game but Leeds looked like they just needed to go through the motions. There was very little aggression and pride in defence. I think that was what struck me the most. Up the middle your defence is soft and the goal-line defence in the first half was embarrassing. That to me is an attitude thing. There seems to be a lack of leaders in the pack and at halfback who have the authority to stop the rot when it starts.

Looking at the stats in today’s League Express it seems you made plenty more metres, clean breaks, offloads and missed fewer tackles yet when it counted – on your own line and when you were attacking ours you were lacking. The discipline was also awful. Penalties for backchat are unforgivable and they let us off the hook.

You have some good players and some average ones. What is missing are leaders.

We've done quite a lot of humble pie eating since we ruled the roost so no, I guess we wouldn't.

As much as it's hurting quite a lot of you need to realise the Super 8's were binned because the top 5-6 Championship teams were getting closer and closer. Lots of super league nipsies were nipping like chuff.

You are in a rut but hopefully this should give you a massive wake up call, drop down here and it's a dog fight. If you think any championship team would give you an easy ride because you are Leeds you are mistaken and as you have seen a 'second rate', 'Team full of amateurs' championship side beat you, and there are better sides in this league who'd have massacred that cowardly shower you brought to Odsal.

Arrogance cost us dearly and ended in a trip to L1. Bradford, Leigh and Widnes imploded on relegation. With Hetherington your safe from that but you are not guaranteed to bounce. We had no divine right and neither do you.

Hope you sort it quickly because I want he next derby to be in SL not the Championship.

It really was. No joy in that situation from this Leeds fan.

And a lot of fat ones. What's really missing is a few salads.

SL have huge problems, its ok to have a salary cap and while the cap brings everyone down to the lowest denominator, it does not make the game any better, in fact this year the game is at its lowest point in terms of skill and quality. The teams with crowds of 3,000 and 4,000 have the same money to spend in terms of salary cap as the teams with crowds of over 10,000. Every team in SL get £2m as a cap, and just by coincidence Sky sponsorship is £2m per club. So teams with crap grounds and poor crowds can compete with the teams who are well supported. The game can only go backwards.
I was privy to a meeting where a CEO of a SL team who was talking about selling the SL franchise to a another owner and he wanted to move the team lock stock and barrel to Odsal. It never happened but some fans on here are fickle especially when they see the Rhinos struggling and they cannot wait to get their threepennth in. Trust me some people on here do not know how their clubs are surviving, so in the event of Sky pulling the plug a lot of teams will go to the wall. It time we stopped marketing the game in Canada, lets get back to marketing in our own country, We need Bradford in SL, we need a London team and SL need the Rhinos. so lets move on from this post, we cant turn the clock back so its time to move on to Thursday game. Good luck to Bradford it was a well deserved win and I wish you well in the next round.

Agree with most of that forget Canada ffs lets get Bradford,Halifax,Widnes and Leigh back in SL,chance of that?zero because has you rightly point out if It wasn,t for the Sky money most would go to the wall so they will never vote to expand the numbers!
Neither will they do away with the ridiculous Easter fixtures!

How'd that go?

Superb post

How come Myler Ablett and JJB didn't play Vs us Bulls?

All were injured - Myler could have played but it was touch and go