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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"Just keeping out of trouble, he's too important to get suspended and miss an international or something, classic Bailey.'"
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| Sure, he's no world beater but reasonably happy with this depending on what other players we are bringing in.
He's more aggressive going forward than some of our current props and looked very good in the games against us this year. Also has an offload game in the tackle which is always useful when he's attracting 2/3 defenders to tackle him.
Are we sure he's not INSTEAD of Griffin as opposed to in addition to? Strong rumours this week on Giants board that Griffin thought he was being released a year early but Giants are actually wanting a fee.
Could it be that GH sees Moore as a cheaper option now than Griffin?
Like someone has said, given we have retained Kylie & Kirke and surely Bailey will get a new deal on recent performances ( cannot believe I've said that!) with the likes of Amor and Ambler to come back we'll surely have too many props if we are bringing in both Griffin & Moore??
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| The way I see it is:
Cross vs Moore - Moore wins.
Burgess vs Griffin - Griffin wins.
All Leeds need is a couple of no nonsense props and a centre. It seems we have landed 2 players that will add some grunt into the pack whilst keeping JP, Kylie and others. He is not a big name but he will add that extra impact that has been lacking.
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| for the last few years we've always worked with 5 senior props. This is a good idea, given the frequency of injuries they've picked up. This year we started with Bailey, Burgess, Cross, Leuluai & Peacock. Next year it will be Bailey, Griffin, Leuluai, Moore & Peacock.
I reckon we'll see Kirke go back into the second row, where we'll also be strong (Jones-Buchanan, Delaney, Clarkson, Pitts, Hauraki). This would seem to signal for me that Ablett is not expected to play 2nd row next year, as 6 second rowers is too many in my eyes.
I'd not bet on us signing another centre (Watkins on the right, Ablett on the left) and I think Smith may be heading for the exit,
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| if our recruitment policy is to watch the crusaders and take the "best" player, then what will we do next year?
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| Quote ="RhinoNeil"The way I see it is:
Cross vs Moore - Moore wins.
Burgess vs Griffin - Griffin wins.
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Cross is a better player than Moore. Moore is a decent enough SL plodder, but he's not good enough for a club who should be challenging for the title IMO.
Burgess is good enough to earn an NRL contract and was your best prop when he left by all accounts. Griffin is a good signing however.
Is it not just a case of your coach being the one that is lacking?
It is strange that you would go for Moore as well. They had Chan, O'Hara, Flower and Bryant who are all better players. Why not sign one of those?
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| Underwhelmed by this rumour.
Would rather see Ambler get some first team action next year.
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| Quote ="G1"Underwhelmed by this rumour.
Would rather see Ambler get some first team action next year.'"
Yup, hope it is not true.
Is Moore one of Brian Mac's mates from his Bulls days?
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| What has it come to when we are taking seriously a link to a player like Richard Moore? If that's where we are currently aiming to recruit, then it's time to change the recruiter...
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| Spot on batley, Moore is a decent player but not at all in the class we need what does it say to the young guns out on loan. Amor has definatly come a long way at Wakey and Ambler did well for us and indeed I suppose for Harlquins. Surely these lads along with such as Singleton are the way forward if no ready made good, stress good forwards are available.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"What has it come to when we are taking seriously a link to a player like Richard Moore? If that's where we are currently aiming to recruit, then it's time to change the recruiter...'"
Don't be silly.
GH is here to stay.
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| So we've let one of the best young props in the game go to the NRL and replaced him with a 30 year old bald ginger?? FFS.
I'd much rather we didn't sign a prop and give Amor or Ambler a chance instead of rejects like Moore.
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| Quote ="digger47"Spot on batley, Moore is a decent player but not at all in the class we need what does it say to the young guns out on loan. Amor has definatly come a long way at Wakey and Ambler did well for us and indeed I suppose for Harlquins. Surely these lads along with such as Singleton are the way forward if no ready made good, stress good forwards are available.'"
You're spot on too Digger
I would agree wholeheartedly with ALL of this
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| Oh the outrage.
Would this be the same Richard Moore that was pretty much the best prop on the pitch for either side when Crusaders visited Headingley in SL?
I'd have him over Leuluai any day of the week. At least he can play more than ten minutes without looking like he needs an oxygen cylinder.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"What has it come to when we are taking seriously a link to a player like Richard Moore? If that's where we are currently aiming to recruit, then it's time to change the recruiter...'"
Who is taking it seriously? It's a rumour from Dave Nosey Parker in the sun. You can rest your knee. Don't want you to over-jerk it unless and until the signing actually happens.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Would this be the same Richard Moore that was pretty much the best prop on the pitch for either side when Crusaders visited Headingley in SL?'"
Yup. I called it the same way.
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| Quote ="G1"Who is taking it seriously? It's a rumour from Dave Nosey Parker in the sun. You can rest your knee. Don't want you to over-jerk it unless and until the signing actually happens.'"
If it was Dave Nosey Parker who had come out with it on his own then I wouldn't be interested, never mind concerned, but it's also red hot over here that this is true. The rumour is that Cas and Wakey were interested, but that Moore has told them Leeds have been in touch and it looks like he's going there.
If, and I agree it's still an if until it's confirmed, then it is a very poor signing indeed.
Andy, I personally wouldn't have signed Leuluai again, his best days are well behind him, and we've know this for two years.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"
Andy, I personally wouldn't have signed Leuluai again, his best days are well behind him, and we've know this for two years.'"
Who is this "we" you speak of?
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| Anyone who has watched his input over the last year or two. To counter your point, are you suggesting that he is still one of the top props in SL? Actually, who do you see as the top 6 props in SL?
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"Anyone who has watched his input over the last year or two. '"
That's me and about 13,000 other Leeds fans then. So, you speak for all of us do you?
Quote To counter your point, are you suggesting that he is still one of the top props in SL?'" What point are you countering? I've asked who the "we" was that knew Kylie was past his best for two years.
Quote Actually, who do you see as the top 6 props in SL?'" Does that have anything to do with whether Kylie has been past his best for two years, whether "we" have all known that or anything we've been discussing to this point?
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| Now then Andy and bloodbath, lets face it to be best prop on field against Crusaders wouldn't have been hard the way we played/were playing. In my opinion we need considerably better options not saying he's poor but don't think he's right for us, his he better than Cross?
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| Just looked at some stats and Moore concedes far too many errors and gives away far too many penalties. Worse than any of our current props.
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| Quote ="digger47"Now then Andy and bloodbath, lets face it to be best prop on field against Crusaders wouldn't have been hard the way we played/were playing. In my opinion we need considerably better options not saying he's poor but don't think he's right for us, his he better than Cross?'"
In the games against Crusaders Moore stood out as one of the best forward performers on that pitch. I made this point on here then, it's not a retrospective pat on the back. I call it as I see it. He made a dent, played well and stood out. Fact, if you like. My position on Moore is quite clear, he wouldn't add much added value in taking us back to that next level. But small, subtle, improvements within the balance of a squad - you can get there in instalments. I mean IMO, Moore is a better prop than Cross (of course) and Biff (slighty harder to call) so Moore could fill the gap of bodies of who have left with a better playing option. But the counter point (re: the blooding of Singleton and the usage of Ambler and Amor - then squad age) is probably the determining factor as to why Moore shouldn't be signed, or considered to be signed.
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