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| Quote ="G1"No comment.'"
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| I won't renew unless some quality is brought in. We are in a downward spiral and next year will be worse
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| McDermott's quotes in that article are absolutley bananas. Kirke's quotes are actually quite reasonable. Still shouldn't get a renewal though.
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| McDermott. “I can count on one hand the number of times he has come off the field having been a bit ropey."
Well Brian, I can count on one hand the number of drives he often makes in a game.
Bugger, I promised myself I would make no comment on this tremendous news.
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| only quote I've seen that is correct is "He is very consistent in what he delivers for the team on a weekly basis." shame that what he delivers would get laughed at by the part-timers in championship 1.
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| Quote ="MHL"only quote I've seen that is correct is "He is very consistent in what he delivers for the team on a weekly basis." shame that what he delivers would get laughed at by the part-timers in championship 1.'"
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| Apparently we're in transition, the problem being there isn't any transition, and we keep resigning players who are paramount to our problems!
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Although the reason is unknown, he prefers to be referred to as 'John'. He lives in Leeds with his life partner Moll-Tuck.
A man born to be captain (think about it), Ian Kirke towers over the opposition from his 6 ft 5in height but is the kind of guy who lets his rugby do the talking.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"I think gh can kiss goodbye to my £300. Why should I waste my time and money'"
Come sit with us in the cheap seats
PS you still got that shirt with Kirke on the back ?
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| Shocking really, whilst I acknowledge that the likes of Kirke do have a place in the squad, another 2 years of him seems stupid. He makes little impact with the ball, and although defends well I think we should be looking at better players. At 29, we should be seeing him in his peak at the moment, which is worrying.
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| Great news, another one for your over thirty club next year.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Great news, another one for your over thirty club next year.'"
Well you're going to take one of our cr-ap old ozzies off us, so thanks.
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| You haven't seen anything yet - Senior is in this week, listening to him talk on Radio Leeds yesterday he is expecting a 2 year contract!!!
I fail to see how GH can fit in any new players - Kylie would have taken a cut to get his previous contract, can't see him taking a further cut, Kirke will not have been on big money to take a cut, I doubt Sinfield will have taken much of a hit, Webb maybe a reasonable reduction. For Burgess see Ambler, part of Cross's monies will have to be used on either Singleton or Amour.
The other concern is we don't seem to be hearing anything about potential targets - both Warrington and Saints have signed players for next season but not Leeds?
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| Quote ="West Cumbrian Rhino"Apparently we're in transition, the problem being there isn't any transition, and we keep resigning players who are paramount to our problems!'"
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Great news, another one for your over thirty club next year.'"
Pi$$ off grandad
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| does this mean that Bailey could be leaving? as resigning Leuluai, Kirke, Peacock (apparently) and with Griffin joining. with also Ambler, Singleton and Amor in reserve?
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| Whatever the majority of fans on here think about Kirke the last 3 coaches have selected him on a regular basis. They must have been happy with what he brings to the side despite the stats displayed on here every week. If it was just McDermott showing faith in him it would be more of a concern, but TS regarded by many as one of our greatest ever coaches, also kept him in the team.
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| Quote ="The Magic Rat"Whatever the majority of fans on here think about Kirke the last 3 coaches have selected him on a regular basis. They must have been happy with what he brings to the side despite the stats displayed on here every week. If it was just McDermott showing faith in him it would be more of a concern, but TS regarded by many as one of our greatest ever coaches, also kept him in the team.'"
i believe he is giving them sexual pleasure for team selection
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| Quote ="The Magic Rat"Whatever the majority of fans on here think about Kirke the last 3 coaches have selected him on a regular basis. They must have been happy with what he brings to the side despite the stats displayed on here every week. If it was just McDermott showing faith in him it would be more of a concern, but TS regarded by many as one of our greatest ever coaches, also kept him in the team.'"
Ian Kirke was a different player up to the start of 2010. That his when his pathetic laziness first came to my attention.
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| Quote ="G1"Ian Kirke was a different player up to the start of 2010. That his when his pathetic laziness first came to my attention.'"
If we're bagging players for laziness, there's going to be a heck of a lot of new threads need starting...
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Quote ="G1"Ian Kirke was a different player up to the start of 2010. That his when his pathetic laziness first came to my attention.'"
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... on=2011Iam not sure the stats back that up. I tried to do a comparision from 2007 to 2011 if it has worked.
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www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... on=2011Iam not sure the stats back that up. I tried to do a comparision from 2007 to 2011 if it has worked.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"If we're bagging players for laziness, there's going to be a heck of a lot of new threads need starting...'"
Is there?
Is there going to be another Leeds forward who regularly makes so few carries a game?
A quick glance at this year's stats, roudning up to a full carry showis us the following per carry average per game from Leeds forwards whether they be forwards still on the books, loaned out or binned off.
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Kirke 8
Bailey 12
Peacock 19
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Burgess 15
Lets cheucked in the young Singleton kid in his one short cameo as well shall we? He made 9 carries.
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| Quote ="The Magic Rat"www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1=2007&hp1=2422&hs2=2011&hp2=2422&stat=tries&season=2011Iam not sure the stats back that up. I tried to do a comparision from 2007 to 2011 if it has worked.'"
They may not, but in 2007 he was playing 2nd row from the bench. In 2011 he's playing front row.
Maybe he's always been so lazy and it was not as noticeable when he was being carried in a dominant team. Still hardly backs up a contract extension. He averaged 6 carries a game back in 2007 btw.
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| Quote ="G1"Ian Kirke was a different player up to the start of 2010. That his when his pathetic laziness first came to my attention.'"
I have know idea about the second sentence in this post but I would argue that the first one is wrong
It's easier to go under the radar as part of a winning, dominant pack
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| What's the point of Ian Kirke? !! He is such a lucky lucky boy! Perhaps I'll get signed up next..I'm a clapped out old pensioner with joint replacements, overweight and crippled with arthritis but one thing I am not is a lazy lump! If he makes more that a metre when he carries the ball or hits the opposition before his knees hit the deck it is a bonus! I'm with Tad...I shall be saving my money next year I think!
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